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PostSubject: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyTue May 01, 2012 9:18 am

Re reading some suvivors reports for another topic it starts to look as though there were two Durnford Dongas.

Firstly a stand in the Nyogane Donga around a mile from camp, Barker pin points that, and then a further stand in the Mpofane Donga, around 300 meters from the camp. This the Donga that Bradstreet took up position in. Davies says thats where he met up with Bradstreet and Jacob Molefi seems to point to it as well.

Davies says that when they had made a stand 300 meters from the camp he was in line with the soldiers. This makes so much sence in terms of time and space in that when the line was breached by the Zulu they were then virtually at the camp gates, not still a mile away. Hence the immediacy of the threat to the troops rear.

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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyTue May 01, 2012 5:46 pm

Hi Springbok

How far would it be from durnfords second posistion to pope's Coy ?



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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyTue May 01, 2012 6:19 pm

DB
Really very close in comparison, instead of say approx 500 metres could be as little as 100

I will have a look in a couyple of weeks and pace it out.

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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyWed May 02, 2012 9:51 pm

So is the suggestion he arrived at the Nyogane, left his 2 troop, rode back to camp possibly spoke
to Pulleine, then withdrew his men to the Mpofane Donga for the big stand ?




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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyWed May 02, 2012 10:24 pm

Gents please. Stop keep saying " Last Stand" they didn't make a last or big stand they were stopped and surrounded by the Zulus and killed.
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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyWed May 02, 2012 10:28 pm

littlehand wrote:
Gents please. Stop keep saying " Last Stand" they didn't make a last or big stand they were stopped and surrounded by the Zulus and killed.

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I think your getting confused were talking about Durnfords stands in the Donga.



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PostSubject: Re: Durnfords second stand?   Durnfords second stand? EmptyWed May 02, 2012 10:35 pm

There were no stands, or last stands, or big stands, anywhere on that day. The British were routed. Complete Zulu Victory.
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