The so-called iron discipline of the Zulu warriors...

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Incredible, despite the so-called iron discipline of the Zulu warriors, it happened many times that the Zulu king and his generals have no authoritative on the simple warriors and their officers, as at Isandhlwana, Kambula and Ulundi. ..

This caused disasters and precipitated the destruction of Zululand.

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Pascal the Rascal

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The king knew exactly what his Impi's were doing. You woundn't send 30,000 warriors to talk peace, as was his words regarding Isandlwana. Plus the fact they were going to attack on the 23rd anyway.

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Plus the fact they were going to attack on the 23rd anyway. Very good agree

For the rest no relation to the topic scratch

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Pascal MAHE wrote:: Plus the fact they were going to attack on the 23rd anyway. Very good

For the rest no relation to the topic

You need to make yourself clearer in what you are asking.

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Incredible, despite the so-called iron discipline of the Zulu warriors, it happened many times that the Zulu king and his generals have no authoritative on the simple warriors and their officers, as at Isandhlwana, Kambula and Ulundi. ..

This caused disasters and precipitated the destruction of Zululand.

Cheers

Pascal the Rascal

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Pascal MAHE wrote:: Incredible, despite the so-called iron discipline of the Zulu warriors, it happened many times that the Zulu king and his generals have no authoritative on the simple warriors and their officers, as at Isandhlwana, Kambula and Ulundi. ..

This caused disasters and precipitated the destruction of Zululand.
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Iron discipline of Zulu warriors? Where are you getting this nonsense? It sounds like you are applying European ideas of what a soldier should be to a different culture. The Zulu were never "Spartans." Their army was more like a "national guard" (i.e. militia) than a professional force. You need to study mo

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My poor little 6pdr, It is you who should read and study, I have said, the so-called iron discipline of Zulu warriors ...

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[quote="Pascal MAHE"It is you who should read and study, I have said, the so-called iron discipline of Zulu warriors ...[/quote]

I have read the history of the Zulu people and there was nothing unusual about the way they fought those battles with the exception that more and more rifles were being integrated into their army. There NEVER WAS any iron discipline. The Zulu army was a quasi-volunteer force. Its major focus most of the time was public works projects...and Cetshwayo's political standing was less than absolutely steadfast. They had no Prussian Staff concept. This topic is a nonstarter...like most your provocations. Nice try though...

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This topic is a nonstarter for those who do not understand, like you :p;: , just as for the general public, the Zulu army is considered disciplined, the story of the beginning of some battles proved the contrary, that's what I meant , but you have to read from right to left :p;: ... like MOST your provocations, which provocations scratch

. Nice try though ... And successful, though I tried is nothing, you're really paranoid :p;:

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Pascal MAHE wrote:: This topic is a nonstarter for those who do not understand, like you, just as for the general public, the Zulu army is considered disciplined, the story of the beginning of some battles proved the contrary, that's what I meant , but you have to read from right to left... like MOST your provocations, which provocations . Nice try though ... And successful, though I tried is nothing, you're really paranoid

Some people read up and down. I usually read from LEFT to RIGHT. But right to left? Is this another one of your bloody provocations?!

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Is this another one of your bloody provocations ? What provocations scratch

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If you do not understand anything about this topic is that you're illiterate :p;: .

you just have to learn to read from left to right and top to bottom :p;: or go somewhere else, instead of doing tantrums :p;: :p;: :p;: ...

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All cases of indiscipline of the Zulu officers and warriors, as I mentioned earlier in this topic, they would have taken place during the reign of Shaka?

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Pascal, read the book a " Zulu King Speaks"

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To make you an opinion on a topic, read dozens of books on this topic.

I think Cetewayo was very misinformed about the lack of discipline of his troops in battle, otherwise he would have to punish the culprits ...

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impi wrote:: Pascal, read the book a " Zulu King Speaks"

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To make you an opinion on a topic, read dozens of books on this topic, ok ? No time for that !