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PostSubject: OR patrol jackets   OR patrol jackets EmptyFri Jun 28, 2013 4:52 pm

I have this description of a patrol jacket but I think it is what officers wore. What I need is a description of what OR wore. Help, anyone?

blue patrol jackets, edged all round with black mohair braid. Across the front were four rows of flat, black mohair braid.Each double row had an eye loop in the centre and ended in a double drop loop. The jacket fastened down the front with hooks and eyes but there were four netted olivets on the right side which fastened through the braid loops on the left. The cuffs were decorated with Austrian braid in the same braid and the back seams had a double row of braiding at each end ending in a crow’s foot with double eyes in the centre.
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PostSubject: Re: OR patrol jackets   OR patrol jackets EmptySat Jun 29, 2013 9:19 am

Horsefixer,

Very few, but some, other ranks wore a patrol jacket. For the most part it was worn by senior nco's in various corps and in the Royal Engineers.

It was plain dark blue with a black trim running from the collar, all edges and the cuffs had a simple pointed embellishment. It was not frogged like the pattern you mention.

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PostSubject: Re: OR patrol jackets   OR patrol jackets EmptySat Jun 29, 2013 1:24 pm

Thanks but what DID OR wear then?
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PostSubject: OR Patrol Jackets    OR patrol jackets EmptySat Jun 29, 2013 2:13 pm

Horsefixer the following is from ' Uniforms and weapons of the zulu war ' by Christopher Wilkinson - Latham.
'' The other ranks had two issue jackets , the dress tunic and the serge tunic or frock , both of which were worn during the zulu war . The dress tunic was of scarlet cloth , the brick red colour having been abolished in 1871 , and was fastened down the front by a single row of brass general service buttons bearing the Royal Coat Of Arms , numbered buttons having been discontinued for other ranks in 1874 . The collar was of a scarlet cloth but had a collar patch , pointed at the outer end , in the regimental facing colour , ornamented with a regimental pattern collar badge . The cuffs were decorated with a pointed half - panel of facing cloth edged in white tape , terminating at the point in a trefoil knot . The collar patch and the panel of facing cloth on the cuff weresewn into the tunic , the latter inside the white tape , so that if a battalion's strength had to be increased by taking volunteers from other regiments , as happened during the zulu campaign , the old facings could be easily removed and replaced by the new ones . The bottom edge of the collar and the leading edge of the tunic were piped in white . The shoulder straps were of scarlet cloth , edged in white tape , with the regimental number in brass or white metal at the shoulder seam . On the first pattern tunic there were two buttons at the rear , above the white piped pleated skirts , but shortly after the introduction of the Valise pattern equipment they were removed as the weight of the valise caused chafing in the small of the back .

The frock , worn in all orders of dress save for review order , was made of coarse unlined scarlet serge and fastened down the front with five general service buttons . The collar was of the regimental facing colour but the cuffs were plain scarlet ornamented with a single loop of white braid . The shoulder straps were the same as for the dress tunic ''.

Not sure if you want their description of the patrol jacket but I'll post it anyway .
'' The patrol jacket was introduced in 1866 .Made of dark blue cloth it was rounded in front and edged all round and up the openings at the sides with 1 inch black mohair braid . On each side in the front were four double drop loops of 1/4 inch flat plait , with eyes in the centre of each loop . The top row of loops reached to the sleeve seam and the bottom row 4'' long . The jacket fastened down the front with hooks and eyes and also had four netted olivets on the right side which fastened through loops on the left side . The cuffs were ornamented with an Austrian knot of flat plait , extending to 7 '' from the bottom of the cuff . Each back seam was ornamented with double flat plait with a crows foot knot at the top and bottom and two double eyes at equal distances '' . Hope this is of some help and isnt to confusing ! .
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PostSubject: Re: OR patrol jackets   OR patrol jackets EmptySat Jun 29, 2013 2:22 pm

Thanks 90th thats just the job. The reason I am asking for all this detail is that I have written a novel based around the AZ war and am currently polishing it up for submission Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: OR patrol jackets   OR patrol jackets EmptySat Jun 29, 2013 4:54 pm

Horsefixer,

As a picture paints a thousands words, here are the 21st Royal Scots Fusiliers circa 1879:

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For the most part the sergeants are wearing the five-button frocks.  The officer and the Sergeant-Major are wearing the Indian-Pattern scarlet patrol jackets.  The nco next to the chap in the pith helmet is wearing the other-ranks patrol jacket.

The line-infantry officers' patrol jacket as described by 90th looks like this:

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