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Who were the Zulu commanders, involved in the various battles of the Anglo Zulu War of 1879.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Commanders!! Who were they.    Zulu War Commanders!! Who were they.  EmptyThu Dec 05, 2013 7:07 pm

"
iNyezane and Eshowe (22nd January 1879)
Zulu Commanders
Godide kaNdlela – army commander
Mbilwane kaMahlanganisa - brigade commander
Masegwane kaSopigwasi - brigade commander
Matshiya - brigade commander of the left horn, which lead the attack


Isandlwana (22nd January 1879)
Zulu Commanders
Chief Ntshingwayo kaMahole Khoza – army commander Chief Mavumengwana kaNdlela Ntuli
Prince Dabulamanzi kaMapande (reserve)


Rorke’s Drift (22nd January 1879) Zulu Commander
Prince Dabulamanzi kaMapande.


Ntombe Drift (12th March 1879) Zulu Commander
Prince Mbilini kaMswati


Hlobane (28th March 1879)
Zulu Commander
Prince Mbilini kaMswati in Hlobane
Chief Mnyamana kaNgqengelele Buthelezi – commander of army.


Kambala (29th Match 1879),
Zulu Commander
Chief Ntshingwayo kaMahole Khoza – army commander Chief Somopho kaZikhala mthembu
Chief Mnyamana kaNgqengelele Buthelezi
Prince Mbilini kaMswati leader of abaQulusi.


Gingindlovo (2nd April 1879)
Zulu Commander
Chief Somopho kaZikhala mthembu – army commander
Chief Mbilwane kaMahlanganisa - brigade commander
Chief Masegwane kaSopigwasi - brigade commander
Prince Dabulamanzi kaMapande – brigade commander
Chief Sigcwelecwele KaMhlekehleke - leader of inGobamakhosi.


Ulundi (oNdini) (4th July 1879).
Zulu Commanders
Prince Ziwedu KaMpande (brother of the king)
Chief Ntshingwayo kaMahole Khoza – army commander
Chief Mnyamana kaNgqengelele Buthelezi –brigade commander Prince Dabulamanzi kaMapande – brigade commander"
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Commanders!! Who were they.    Zulu War Commanders!! Who were they.  EmptyFri Dec 06, 2013 6:34 pm

CTSG,

In Swati the prefix for son of becomes wa rather than the iZulu ka.

So it is Prince Mbilini waMswati, rather kaMswati, I learnt the hard way by having pointed out to me by his great-niece back in 1991, when in Swaziland, at which time it was too late to change the proofs of my book.

I have to point out that it is Prince Dabulamanzi kaMpande, rather than kaMapande otherwise my adopted brother will chastise me for not defending the family name. Nor did he hold any command appointment at iSandlwana, save for that of being an officer in the uDloko ibutho. His reason for being there - according to his family oral tradition - was to act as "the eyes and ears of his brother" King Cetshwayo kaMpande.

The command of the Zulu reserve which cut the line of retreat to Rorke's Drift was held by Zibhebhu kaMaphitha. H. C. Lugg in Historic Natal and Zululand, published 1948 declares: At Sandhlwana he led the pursuit to Fugitive's Drift and is reputed to have shot both Melville and Coghill. (Original spellings and errors retained.)

The command of the Zulu reserve only devolved to Prince Dabulamanzi after Zibhebhu crossed the Mzinyathi to raid into Natal for his own benefit and glory. Although I recall hearing an account that has Zibhebhu as being wounded whilst harrying the survivors along the Fugitives' Trail.

John Y.
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Yes John It's Ka for the Zulu and wa for the Swazi Wink 
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As in that famous praise singer
"KaMa KaMa KaMelion".

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KaMa Down Dear, it's only a song. Very Happy 

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Hi Springy .
Arent you missing a ''KaMa '' ? Very Happy 

Martin
Excellent come back that man Very Happy  Rolling Eyes 
Cheers 90th.
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