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PostSubject: Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply   Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply EmptyFri Jun 20, 2014 1:20 pm

Hello,

In "Zulu Victory" Lock and QUANTRILL are written (p.213):
"Sgt-Major [sic] KAMBULE (...), when crossing the nek, came up CHELMSFORD's cart still guarded by a young drummer boy who (...) refused to give Kambule any rounds".
Really, the 2/24th (Bloomfield) wagon's ammunition, not the 1/24th (Pullen)?
Sorry, but topography is not "my cup of tea"!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply   Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply EmptyFri Jun 20, 2014 1:59 pm

ymob
Could be one of three: the 1/24th, the regimental reserve or the wagon loaded for Chelmsford.

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PostSubject: Re: Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply   Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply EmptyFri Jun 20, 2014 2:10 pm

springbok9 wrote:
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Could be one of three: the 1/24th, the regimental reserve or the wagon loaded for Chelmsford.

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Thanks Springbok.
In books on the azw there are undoubtedly often inaccurency on the facts...
Mister Julian Whybra has right when he says: "read the source, only the source"....
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PostSubject: Re: Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply   Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply EmptyFri Jun 20, 2014 4:14 pm

Fredric,

Due to the helpful citation you provided wrt Malindi, (thank-you!) I was rereading ZULU RISING last night. He cites Simeon Nkambule's story of course. Nkanbule mentions cartridges lying on the ground around the wagons -- so we can rule out any tented supply -- and that the Zulu were still busy in the tents -- which to me rules out Bloomfield's wagons. Given that the boy was sitting alone my guess it would have to be the supply for the 1/24th because Pullen would have abandoned it by then to rally the defense. That wagon was sitting alone hard by the trader's path which would have been in line from the donga where Nkambule's troop had been and the nek. -6pdr
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PostSubject: Re: Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply   Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply EmptyFri Jun 20, 2014 4:26 pm

Then again, it may have been Durnford's supply too I suppose as that was closer to the nek, I guess. But that would have only been true if the boy had been put there for his own safety because it wasn't a source that an Imperial officer or noncom would have held sway over.
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PostSubject: Re: Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply   Sgt Kambule / Young "boy" /ammunition supply EmptySat Jun 21, 2014 9:15 am

Given that the boy was sitting alone my guess it would have to be the supply for the 1/24th because Pullen would have abandoned it by then to rally the defense. That wagon was sitting alone hard by the trader's path which would have been in line from the donga where Nkambule's troop had been and the nek. -6pdr[/quote]

Bonjour 6 pdr,
Thanks for your help.
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He was a Drummer Boy.
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