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| | Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) | |
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Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:58 pm | |
| Hello all,
This may be of interest.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/campaign-improve-rorkes-drift-heros-7340586
Regards,
Tim |
| | | ADMIN
Posts : 4349 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 64 Location : KENT
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:24 pm | |
| Tim agreed, now your on the case as good as done. Let us know when your setup and where donations should be sent. Good luck! |
| | | 24th
Posts : 1862 Join date : 2009-03-25
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:05 pm | |
| Tim, I see you have been promoted! |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Grave of RD Defender James Owen ( Pte David Lewis ) Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:52 am | |
| Well picked up 24th I didnt notice when I read the article on the RDVC Forum . Congratulations Tim , well done Cheers 90th |
| | | Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:16 am | |
| Played by Ivor Emmanuel ? Pretty sure Martin would love to contribute |
| | | 24th
Posts : 1862 Join date : 2009-03-25
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:31 pm | |
| Is there any photos of the real James Owen.
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| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:00 pm | |
| 24th,
If you have a look at his grave in the 'graves' section, there is a photo of him in old age although not particularly clear I'm afraid.
Regards,
Tim
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| | | Ulundi
Posts : 558 Join date : 2012-05-05
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:11 pm | |
| What are the formalities of arranging a redeadication. I don't for one second think it would be easy, but would love to know the procedure. |
| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:10 pm | |
| Hello Ulundi,
There are a few factors to consider when looking into having a grave marked; first, it's a good idea to check with the particular cemetery or church that you have the right grave and that their records match with the known facts (for Rorke's Drift graves, Kris Wheatley's books are a good reference for example as they indicate grave numbers etc. where known).
Once this is established, it is necessary to obtain legal permission to mark the grave - also, there may be regulations dictating things like the colour or material of the proposed memorial.
The most challenging part (as you would probably expect) is obtaining the headstone itself; my general approach is to try & stir up local interest by contacting the local press etc. and appealing for help. I have been fortunate on previous occasions in that local stonemasons have seen the particular article and generously offered their services free of charge, failing that you have to consider the avenue of trying to raise the money (members of this forum were kind enough to help in the case of Gunner Howard).
Where possible it's good to try to contact any known descendants (again, Kris is very much the expert in this field) in order to let them know and take into account their wishes etc.
If and when all this is successful, the rededication ceremony then becomes the focus - I try to involve as many organisations and charities as possible i.e. the Royal British Legion, Help for Heroes, local TA units/cadets etc. and most are usually keen to get involved.
It can be quite a long process with a lot of liaising between lots of different people, but very much worth the effort - if anyone knows of a nearby Rorke's Drift grave in need of some attention, give it a go!
Regards,
Tim |
| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:18 pm | |
| Just a quick update, a company called South Wales Monuments has very kindly come forward to offer an inscribed headstone free of charge to mark the grave of James Owen, I will of course keep everyone posted with regard to a re-dedication ceremony which I imagine will take place a little later this year.
Regards,
Tim |
| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:27 pm | |
| For those interested, a preliminary date for this re-dedication is Sunday 12th October 2014 at Bethel cemetery, further information will follow as & when it is confirmed.
Regards,
Tim |
| | | Frank Allewell
Posts : 8572 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 77 Location : Cape Town South Africa
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:22 pm | |
| Tim you really are a bloody marvel ! Respect mate. |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:13 pm | |
| Thanks Tim. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10881 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Grave of RD Defender J.Owen ( Pte David Lewis ) Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:17 am | |
| Hi Tim Once again I'm pleased to say '' Excellent work that man ! " . Hope your well ? . Cheers 90th |
| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:10 am | |
| Hello all,
(I'm fine thanks 90th, just a little occupied with the Edinburgh Tattoo at present!)
Just a little update regarding timings, I'm looking at the ceremony starting at around 1230 on Sunday Oct 12th (still to be confirmed but looking likely).
The address of the Bethel Chapel is:
Carnglas Road Sketty Swansea SA2 9BJ
There are in fact two chapels on Carnglas Road (the other being Sketty Baptist Chapel), just to try and allay any confusion.
Bethel Chapel have kindly agreed to lay on teas and coffees etc. on completion of the ceremony.
Further information to follow!
Regards,
Tim |
| | | Dave
Posts : 1603 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:20 am | |
| Thanks Tim. |
| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:53 pm | |
| A further newspaper article on James Owen including an interesting previously unseen photograph of him.
http://portugalresident.com/the-battle-of-rorke’s-drift
Regards,
Tim |
| | | ADMIN
Posts : 4349 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 64 Location : KENT
| Subject: Re: Redeadication to Rorke's Drift Defender James Owen (Pte David Lewis) Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:41 pm | |
| Posted on behalf of Tim Needham. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]For those attending the redeadication. |
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