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PostSubject: 58th rutlandshire foot 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptySun Aug 03, 2014 10:25 pm

Hello everyone
new guy eljas here, From reading quite a few posts on here it's obvious that there is an awful lot of combined knowledge out there between the forums members.

So to the point, I have recently discovered My gg grandad George Hayward was a seargent in the 58th Rutlandshire foot. He was married to a local girl in 1878 in Folkestone whilst barracked at or near Dover castle, I am trying to find out more about him and his army career. I signed up to the FWR to see what they had on him. (very basic information) Seems he was shipped out to africa in 1879 and received the south africa medal no bar. but thats it no more info on how long he was there, if he saw action there or when he was discharged. any more information would be greatly appreciated and sorry in advance if this is not posted correctly or if this is not the type of topic members are interested in.

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PostSubject: 58th Rutlandshire Foot 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 4:37 am

Welcome Eljas
I hope you enjoy your time on here while you search around . I can tell you basically your relation George Hayward wouldn't have seen any action during the war , No Clasp , or sometimes known also as no Bar Medals were issued to those who never crossed the Border into Zululand . According to the Forsyth Medal Roll Hayward's Regimental Number was 2123 , he was one of several Sergeants from his Regiment who were entitled to the Medal with ' No Clasp ' . Hope this is of some help ? , 1879Graves who is a wizz at finding enlistment or Attestation papers will no doubt post them here for you if and when he see's your post .
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PostSubject: Re: 58th rutlandshire foot 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 9:14 am

Eljas,

Some images of the 58th (Rutlandshire) Regiment so you can get an idea of your forebear's uniform:

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A Colour-Sergeant, photographed in Dover, Kent.
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Two Privates, photographed in Northampton.
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A Lance-Corporal, post-1881, photographed in Port Louis, Mauritius.
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The 58th were also involved in the 1st Anglo-Boer War of 1880-81, were they took part in the some of the worst battles of that campaign Laing's Nek and Majuba.

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PostSubject: Re: 58th rutlandshire foot 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 11:15 am

Hi Eljas

Welcome to the forum.

I will post 2123 George Hayward's Discharge Papers on the forum when I return home from work.


Mr Young

Great set of photos.

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Thanks for the kind words.

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PostSubject: 58th Rutlandshire Regt 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptyTue Aug 05, 2014 2:10 am

Hi Eljas
I knew our man 1879Graves would deliver the goods ! , he always does  You need to study mo You need to study mo . I'm sure these will be of great importance to you ? .
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Absolutely brilliant Very Happy  thank you very much Graves this is so much more than I expected. I Knew the old boy managed to rejoin civvy street as he went on to work as a surface worker at the local pit in Makerfield near Wigan in wigan lancashire where my grandad and dad were born. But this information fills in so many blank spaces. I am in your debt Many thanks.
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That's what happens when you come to the right place.  agree 
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Excellent work 1879graves  agree 
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PostSubject: Re: 58th rutlandshire foot 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptyWed Aug 06, 2014 7:13 pm

Did you notice he originally joined the 1/24th, then 2/24th and after that 58th. Dates for 2/24th must be wrong mustn't they?
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PostSubject: Re: 58th rutlandshire foot 1879   58th rutlandshire foot 1879 EmptyWed Aug 06, 2014 7:52 pm

Steve,

I would say the dates for 2nd/24th were to enable his transport home.

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Ah....of course.

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