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PostSubject: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 4:45 pm

Something to do while recovering tomorrow (or today if your in Oz).

An enlargement from a photo I have.

Which regiment?

Where is it?

What rifle is that?

What's going on?

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 9:53 pm

Is it from the Afghan War of 1878–1880 ?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:01 pm

Good try John. But no.

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PostSubject: New Year Mystery Photo    New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:17 pm

Hi Steve
About to fly out the door going to work an hour early , public holiday pay rates today ! , Sorry ! I misread the Roster ! Shocked Very Happy Very Happy Hhahahahahha , Quick stabs , India or Gibraltar ? .
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:21 pm

Work! Rather you than me. Not India, not Gibralter.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:23 pm

He's not a British soldier, based on he wouldn't carry his rifle like that.
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:23 pm

Oh yes he is.

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PostSubject: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:25 pm

Hi Steve
Very Happy Hhahahahha , hey someone's gotta do it ! Rolling Eyes Sad
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:27 pm

It's not Zulu War?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:30 pm

No it's not.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:34 pm

crimean war
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:40 pm

Not Crimea

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:42 pm

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Sudan!
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:46 pm

It's that a hat, or Bandage.
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:57 pm

Nothing close yet. Will add some clues tomorrow if no one gets there first.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 10:58 pm

Gives us one more clue tonight. agree
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 11:08 pm

It is a hat.

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Movie
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 11:30 pm

Was the chap in the photo a VC winner?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyWed Dec 31, 2014 11:46 pm

Not a movie or a VC winner (so far as I know).
Just about to open the fizz, so happy new year and see you tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 12:20 am

Could this rifle be a snider-enfield, and could this be the Abbysinia campaign (Battle of Magdala)?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 11:43 am

Morning all.

First points go to Mr Cooper! It is indeed a Snider Enfield rifle he carries across his shoulders. That should help you narrow the date range. After Crimea and before Zulu.

But no, not Abyssinia I am afraid.

The hat offers something of a clue as to where the Regiment has just been, but not to where it is in the photograph.

We are talking Southern Hemisphere.

There is a link to "our" war.

Good luck.

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PostSubject: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 11:54 am

Hi Steve
Ashantee campaign 1873 -1874 ? .
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 12:17 pm

Not Ashantee. But good dates!

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 12:58 pm

Ninth Xhosa War.?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 1:29 pm

Not the Ninth Xhosa War, or even the Xhosa 2000 War! But your edging closer. More clues later.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 3:38 pm

Egypt? No, that was later. How about the battle of Ali Masjid (Khyber Pass).


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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 3:52 pm

Fanning the flames, nice one me old china. Suspect xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 4:08 pm

Hang on, What about the Opium War or the Sepoy Mutiny?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 4:15 pm

Sorry Les, I couldn't resist and should have.

Your all moving away from the answer, but your last post, Martin, is pretty good for where the Regiment was just before this.

Here's a satellite shot of the location - easy.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 4:18 pm

Anglo-Persian War?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 4:25 pm

No, more an action than a war.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 4:26 pm

Steve nae bovver, would have gone for it myself! Very Happy xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 4:35 pm

Another clue or this could go on for ever!

We are talking Africa south of the equator.

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Maori war?
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New Zealand in Africa?.
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I sense people are becoming frustrated, so another big clue.

This is an enlargement of another part of the same photograph.

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Sierra Leone?
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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 5:20 pm

That's not south of the equator is it?

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 5:23 pm

What else can I tell you? The whole photo has been published, but a very small version. I know some of you have the book.

There, giving it away.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 5:38 pm

Steve,

I'd go for the passes leading from Natal towards present-day Lesotho in about 1874.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 5:43 pm

Hooray - give the man a cuddly toy!

So what's the regiment? and what's the unit in the second enlargement?

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 5:57 pm

Steve,

I'd say the British soldier is from the 75th (Stirlingshire) Regiment, they were posted from China to Fort Napier.  I have previously posted a photograph of Durnford with their officers, including 'Lucky' Essex at Fort Napier.

As to the locally-recruited man I'd venture a guess that he is one of Hlubi's baSotho.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 6:05 pm

Bang on John. agree

So it relates to all that discussion we were having just a few days ago about Durnford and Langalibelele. Its in the Bushmans River Pass.

See guys, we never venture very far away from the good Colonel.

Les, the photo is reproduced in Drooglever (but you probably wouldn't recognise the enlargements from that - they are very small).

I feel quite exhausted.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 6:15 pm

Steve,

I'll ask the family if they have the original in their archive? I'm seeing them on 22nd January 2015 together with the Colenso family.

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PostSubject: Re: New Year Mystery Photo   New Year Mystery Photo EmptyThu Jan 01, 2015 6:16 pm

LOL! Well, at least I got the rifle correct Rolling Eyes
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Happy to supply a copy if they have not John.

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Well done John!
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Hmm, show's a very devious turn of mind!
can't believe i get to use the word Machiavellian
twice in one week..well done. Suspect Very Happy
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