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PostSubject: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 10:22 am

Can anyone with local knowledge assist with the location of this building:

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South African stoep?
John Young Collection.

My first thought is that is the old Government House in PMB.

Judging by the uniformed officer it is post-1881.

What interests me is that man on the right looks somewhat like Edward Essex.

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 11:00 am

Morning John.
Old Government House I would say. The clipped top to the windows, the 'French Windows' and the oversized quoins. I can virtually place the exact position the photo was taken. I'm going to e mail a more modern Photo, still haven't figured out how to post.

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 11:05 am

John

I agree with Frank. Here is one of Government House, see in particular the shaping of the upper window surrounds. The verandah is obscured to the left but I would say it is very likely the same.

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 11:08 am

Morning Frank,

Thanks for that.  I'm waiting on two other photographs from the same dealer.  One of a Zulu, the other of the Castle, Cape Town with the 91st on the gate.

Steve,

It was a similar photograph to your own that put the thought into my head.

Many thanks to you both.

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 11:18 am

This one's from a different angle. Not sure about the verandah now - but there could be another around the back where French windows are probably more likely.

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyTue Sep 05, 2017 11:30 am

Steve,

If the rear of the house mirrored the front aspect, it could well account for the larger section of building in the left of my photograph.

Frank,

Thanks for the modern photograph.

I'll be in touch.

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Hi JY,
Concur, a winter time scene , post 1885, in Umgungunghlovu.
The potted wisteria on the stoep and the building design and materials support this choice of place too.

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PostSubject: Re: Location, location???   Location, location??? EmptyWed Sep 06, 2017 12:33 pm

Barry,

Thanks for that.

Local knowledge is of great benefit in identifying a season which in turn assists with a timeline.

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