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Posts : 4338 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 64 Location : KENT
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Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
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Posts : 347 Join date : 2017-02-05 Location : Texas, U.S.A.
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| Perfectly clear from this side of the pond. |
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Posts : 4338 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 64 Location : KENT
 | Subject: Re: Can you see photo's Wed May 02, 2018 3:41 pm | |
| Thanks. Quite a few of the topics with the old photobucket photo's have been restore. pages 1 to 4 on the PICTORIAL CATALOGUE OF AZW GRAVES & MEMORIALS photo's restored. If you see a topic that doesn't show a photo, when it should do, send me a link. Once again a big thanks 1879Graves, I see he's has been busy replacing photo's. |
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Posts : 4338 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 64 Location : KENT
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| All photo's are now restored in the follwing topics. Durnford was he capable 1,2,3,4,5, The ammunition question. Pte David Jenkins Forgotten survivor of Rorkes Drift. |
|  | | Chard1879

Posts : 1261 Join date : 2010-04-12
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| Good to see the photo's back. |
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Posts : 10861 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
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| Yes Pete , all good from down here . 90th |
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Posts : 4338 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 64 Location : KENT
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| Well if they can be seen down under, we no longer have a problem. |
|  | | Longbow
Posts : 5 Join date : 2018-05-27 Age : 78 Location : Honeydew Johannesburg
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| Dear Members I have just registered today. My farther acquired an Adams III .450 revolver from a Pretorious family in Standeron in 1938. When my father passed I inherited the Adams revolver in 1973 My father advised me that that revolver was originally given to Commandat-General Andries Wilhelmus Jacobus Pretorius by Paul Kruger in +/-1840. I had it specailly framed in special glass and wooden frame and hangs in my bar area. Sadly as a proud South African I have decided to emigrate early next year and my concience guided me not to take such a precious piece of Afrikana History from South Africa and am willing to part with this valuable hand gun at a fair market value to some earstwhile collector in South Africa. I look forward to your replies Longbow |
|  | | eaton

Posts : 72 Join date : 2016-01-20
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- Dear Members
I have just registered today. My farther acquired an Adams III .450 revolver from a Pretorious family in Standeron in 1938. When my father passed I inherited the Adams revolver in 1973 My father advised me that that revolver was originally given to Commandat-General Andries Wilhelmus Jacobus Pretorius by Paul Kruger in +/-1840. I had it specailly framed in special glass and wooden frame and hangs in my bar area. Sadly as a proud South African I have decided to emigrate early next year and my concience guided me not to take such a precious piece of Afrikana History from South Africa and am willing to part with this valuable hand gun at a fair market value to some earstwhile collector in South Africa. I look forward to your replies Longbow Your date of about 1840 is a bit out. The Adams Mk III went into production in the late 1870s |
|  | | Frank Allewell

Posts : 8573 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
 | Subject: Re: Can you see photo's Mon May 28, 2018 11:14 am | |
| 1868 I believe. There is a bit of a historical issue here. In 1840 Andries Pretorius was in Natal, fighting against Dingan with Mpande. Paul Kruger was a 15 year living in the Transvaal. Without looking up facts and figures I'm pretty sure that Pretorius lived in PMB. He moved up to Rustenburg around 47/48 when Paul Kruger was living in the eastern Transvaal. They did get together to negotiate independence from the Brits and that was early 50s, 53 at a guess. |
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Posts : 8573 Join date : 2009-09-21 Age : 76 Location : Cape Town South Africa
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| After a bit of checking, Pretorius signed the Sand river convention and died shortly after in July 1853 and that's a few years before the Adams was manufactured. Sorry Longbow it doesn't look as the family history works out. Regards |
|  | | eaton

Posts : 72 Join date : 2016-01-20
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| 1868 is the date of the Mk I which was a modification of the percussion Beaumont-Adams -not that it matters overly much. |
|  | | Longbow
Posts : 5 Join date : 2018-05-27 Age : 78 Location : Honeydew Johannesburg
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| Firstly - many thanks to the members who responded to my post about the Adams Mk III .450 revolver that I mentioned. Secondly I appreciate the trouble members have gone to to correct the history of the revolver and the Pres Kruger issue. It was certainly not my intention to attempt to deliberately misinform. The information I received was as my father was told by his boyhood friend - a Pretorius - who also lived in Standerton and was a close friend of my father. Unfortunately I do not know his first name. This Pretorius boy at the time told my dad that the gun was handed to his great great grandfather Andries Pretorius by Paul Kruger -which was clearly a false statement. From the information provided by the members above that could clearly not be the case. So I have always had a prize weapon and I am now somewhat embarrassed and disappointed that the authenticity of the revolver is so wrong. Again I apologise for forwarding wrong information, it certainly was not my intent. When my dad was given the revolver as a boy, he totally believed in his friends story of its origin - and why should he have disbelieved his friend as afterall the boy was a Pretorius. So no doubt the value to me or a prospective new owner has dropped considerably. As someone who places integrity above most all else I have been severely embarrassed. However I know there are many collectors of antiques, as I have been for many years, that may wish to contact me about the Adams. I have it mounted in a beautiful box frame but do not know how to paste a picture in this forum I have nevertheless asked the leading antique auctioneers in Johannesburg to give me an appraisal of the revolvers collectors value prior to it changing hands With best regards to all Longbow |
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