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Belfast Weekley News 27 Janaury 1910
From an article entitled 'The Death of the Earl of Roden"

"The deceased Earl was unmarried, and succeeded in the peerage by his brother, Lieutenant-Colonel the Honourable Robert Julian Orde Jocelyn, who, with his wife and family, had for some years resided at Tullymore Park, and is, therefore, well-known in the district.
The new earl is the second son of the Honourable John Jocelyn, and was born at Bath on the 19th April. 1845. He served in the late 8th Regiment (The King’s) for twenty-three years, and went through the Zulu war of 1879, receiving the medal and clasp. He married [at York] in [7 Dec]1882 Ada Maria, daughter of the late Colonel Soame Gambier Jenyns. C. B., who has attained considerable reputation as  a novelist, and who, as founder and manager of needlework industry for drawn-thread work and fine embroideries, conferred great benefit upon many poor women in the district of Bryansford."

Army record
10 December 1864-30 June 1865 England
1 July 1865- 5 March 1868 Malta
6 March 1868 - 1 May 1878 England
2 May 1878- 22 January 1879 East Indies
24 Jan 1879-28 May 1879 England
29 May 1879 - 5 November 1879 Cape of Good Hope
Appointed Adjutant 7 August 1875-25 Aug 1876
Wo 76 - Regimental Records Of Officers' Services 1775-1914

Ensign 20 Dec 1864, Lieutenant  28 October 1868, Captain 23 November 1877, Major 1882

"Liverpool Regiment Major R.J.O Jocelyn late adjutant of auxiliary forces, has taken command of the depot companies at Warrington."  Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser - Thursday 22 September 1887
February 1888 retires on retired pay.

Zulu War

"Captain Jocelyn 1-8th  Foot is under orders to proceed to Zululand in charge of drafts" Eastern Daily Press 26 May 1879
He set off from Portsmouth on board the 'handsome Indian troopship 'Euphrates' and along with 48 other officers arrived in SA at 3.30pm on the 2nd July. The ship was then to  on to Port Durnford but this order was changed and they disembarked straight away.  The Red Book p271, 273.

Captain Jocelyn R.J.O. Embarked for the Cape with drafts. Served during the latter part of the war with the Native Carrier Corps. Mac and Shad p 308

The Native Carrier Corp was commanded by Major G Salis-Schwabe of the 16 Lancers and Capt Jocelyn worked alongside A S Reynolds, a Lieut in the 31st Foot. Reynolds was specially appointed to the corps by Sir G. Wolseley. There were four other officers whose names are not known. There were approx 2000 carriers taken from the Border Guard on the Tugela and each man would carry a load not exceeding 56 pounds and be armed with an assegai. Wolseley's  project of using native carriers instead of ox carts was not particularly successful with many deserting within a short space of time.  For God Queen and Colony. Terry Sole p221 and the Red Book p285

He was with Captain Yeatman Biggs RA column that travelled from Port Durnford on the 17 August up the coast to St Lucia Bay so as to cut off the Kings escape in that direction. They passed lots of kraals conatining wounded men suffering from the effects of Martini Henry bullets obtained at Inyezane and Ginginhlovo. The columns exploits can be found in The Red Book p341.

He left Natal on September 25 1879 arriving back in England on board the hired transport Ontario on the 6th November 1879. Morning Post 6 Nov 1879

Obit. Larne Times 25 December 1915

"LORD RODEN DEAD. WELL KNOWN ULSTER PEER. HISTORY OF JOCELYN FAMILY. We regret to announce the death of Lieut.- Colonel Robert Julian Orde Jocelyn, Earl of Roden, which took place suddenly at Tullymore Park, Bryansford, his County Down seat, on Saturday evening. The late Earl, who was seventy years of age, was about as usual during the week, being in Newcastle on Thursday. He was extremely popular, and evinced the keenest interest in the wellbeing of his tenantry. He served in the late 8th Regiment (The King's) for twenty-three years, and went through the Zulu war 1879, receiving the medal and clasp. He married in 1882 Ada Maria, daughter of the late Colonel Soame Qambier Jenyns, C. B., who has attained considerable reputation as novelist, and who, as founder and manager of needlework industry for drawn-thread work and fine embroideries, has conferred great benefit upon many poor women in the district of Brvansford. The title now passes to his son. Viscount Jocelyn, who is attached to the North Irish Horse. The Earldom, which is an Irish peerage, dates back to 1771, but the deceased was the holder of more ancient titles, being not only Earl of Roden but also Baron Newport (created 1743) and Viscount Jocelyn (created 1755), in addition to inheriting an English baronetcy, which was patented far back as 1665."
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Other officers who returned from Natal with Robert on board the Ontario

"There were 14 invalids and the following officers :— Captain Dixon and Lieutenant A. Burney, 1st Dragoons : Lieutenant Sanderson, Royal Artillery ; Captain Maclear 2nd Lieutenant Lewis, 2-3 d Foot ; Captain Sutherland,1-4th Foot; Captain Jocelyn, 8th Foot; Lieutenant Wilbraham and Lovett, 1-13th Foot ; Captain Robinson and Lieutenant Lambert, 2-21st Foot ; Major Chamberlain and Captain Symonds, 2-24 th Foot ; Lieutenant Reynolds, 31-st Foot; Captain Howley, 58th Foot ; Captain Hatton, 1-6Oth Foot; Captain Hanson, 99th Foot; Assistant-Commissaries Danti, Chermside, Armstrong ;Surgeon- Major Ryan and Surgeon Cuffe, Army Hospital Corps ; Civil Surgeon Giles and Rev. J. Coad. Surgeon- Major Ryan served as principal medical officer to Sir Evelyn Wood's column. Both officers and men had all been invalided, but were convalescent. They had taken part in the principal engagements of the Zulu war. The Ontario has been rechartered by the Government, and after being partially refitted will return to the Cape to bring home 1,400 troops". Morning Post 6 Nov 1879
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