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PostSubject: Tshingwayo   Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:42 am

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The Zulu commander Tshingwayo deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest generals in African history. First he used a masterly deception plan to lure Lord Chelmsford, the British commander, and 3,000 troops away from their main camp at the foot of Mount Isandlwana and send them on a wild goose chase across the plains.

Then Tshingwayo opened a massive attack on the weakened British force left in the camp. He deployed his warriors in a classic "buffalo horns" formation. The left horn broke through the British firing line, while the right swept around behind Isandlwana and occupied the supply depot and ox-wagon train. They separated the British from their ammunition supply.

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PostSubject: Re: Tshingwayo   Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:05 pm

As you no doubt know, he was killed during the Mandlakazi attack on Ondini 3 (King Cetshwayo kaMpande's new homestead after he returned from the Castle at Cape Town. I've e-mailed Admin a photo of the site of the Battle and the memorial that commemorates it.
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PostSubject: Re: Tshingwayo   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:42 am

Chief Ntshingwayo kaMahole Khoza in ‘Zulu Commanders’.

The cream of the Zulu crop was wiped out by Chief Zibhebhu kaMapitha during his attack on King Cetshwayo kaMpande’s rebuilt Ondini (Ondini 3). This is a photograph of the site.

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PostSubject: Re: Tshingwayo   Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:39 pm

Two photo's the original from the John Young collection the other from an un-named source. There are quite a few illegalities in unknown source photo. But it just does to show the liberties engravers take with the photographs. A distortion of the true photograph.

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PostSubject: Re: Tshingwayo   Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:20 pm

Well its away out of the copyright issue. But i know what you mean. Idea

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PostSubject: Re: Tshingwayo   Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:52 pm

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Tshingwayo was the joint commander of Cetshwayo's Impi, along with Mavumengwana. Tshingwayo was in his seventies while his co-commander was 40. He commanded the Zulus at Isandhlwana and again at Kambula. The photo shows him in a white shirt seated with wives and attendants. After the death of Cetshwayo in 1884 Dinizulu became ruler but in 1889 he rebelled against British rule and was exiled, along with Tshingwayo.
was the joint commander of Cetshwayo's Impi, along with Mavumengwana. Tshingwayo was in his seventies while his co-commander was 40. He commanded the Zulus at Isandhlwana and again at Kambula. The photo shows him in a white shirt seated with wives and attendants. After the death of Cetshwayo in 1884 Dinizulu became ruler but in 1889 he rebelled against British rule and was exiled, along with Tshingwayo.

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PostSubject: Re: Tshingwayo   Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:45 pm

sas1 wrote:

The Zulu commander Tshingwayo deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest generals in African history.

Totally agree with this. Salute

Tshingwayo entirely outmanouevred, outwitted and out thought the invading columns in the run up to iSandlwana.

(I am not convinced the deception of Dartnell/Chelmsford was pre-planned, but deceive it did and the opportunity for a deception was spotted and exploited, deliberately detaining Dartnell/Chelmsford at the proposed new camp and eliminating any danger that they might return to iSandlwana while the attack was executed).
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