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PostSubject: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:09 pm

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Source: J.P Makinnon & S.H Shadbolt

Further Information would be appricated.
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:09 pm

Littlehand. There's some information on Francis Freeman White on Mike Snook's: Notes on the Composition of the British Force at Isandlwana By Lt. Col. Mike Snook.

Page 2 at the bottom. Click on link.

http://www.1879zuluwar.com/t3412-notes-on-the-composition-of-the-british-force-at-isandlwana-by-lt-col-mike-snook#15887
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:05 pm

Thanks CTSG. There doe's not seemed to be to much information on Francis Freeman White. Tried lots of avenue's coming up with nothing. Thanks for looking anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:01 pm

White was in the 1st battalion 24th Regiment, NOT the 2nd battalion.
In 1878 the Army Pay Department was formed which incorporated all regimental paymasters. It might be assumed that White had been transferred to this new unit, technically speaking.
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PostSubject: Francis Freeman White.   Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:50 pm

Hi Julian.
I saw the F.F.White picture listed at the Waddington auction on the RDVC Forum and would like to have it !!. But , Alas I wont be bidding . Idea .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:39 pm

90th,

I've looked at the auction site as well, and I will not be bidding either, but for another reason.

The soldier depicted in the miniature is wearing a Royal Artillery pattern patrol jacket rather than an infantry pattern one which an officer of the 24th would have worn.

White served in the Indian Mutiny and was awarded the campaign medal without clasp, yet the officer in painting doesn't have a medal ribbon up.

Is it White? Personally I don't believe it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:53 pm

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Major Francis Freeman WHITE - Army Pay Dept. (24th Foot)
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:20 pm

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Photo. kwaJimu1879 Collection

Hon. Major F.F. White 1st/24th during the 9th Frontier War, in an infantry pattern patrol jacket and wearing a medal ribbon for the Indian Mutiny.

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PostSubject: Francis Freeman White.   Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:43 am

Hi Kwajimu .
Thanks again for the heads up .
cheers 90th.
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:31 am

No, the portrait cannot be White. It's a dead ringer for him though.
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:52 am

Sorry guys. I we talking about the photo posted form the kwaJimu1879 Collection, or the one in the auction.
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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:33 pm

OH2,

I believe Julian is agreeing with me, that the miniature portrait is not who the auction house allege it to be.

I'll bet that some poor sucker doesn't follow this site and pays an awful lot for it.

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PostSubject: Re: Francis Freeman White Paymaster & Major 2/24th   Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:25 pm

My thoughts exactly.
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