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+8old historian2 Ken Gillings 90th Dave John Mr Greaves impi ciroferrara 12 posters | Author | Message |
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ciroferrara
Posts : 284 Join date : 2010-10-07 Age : 32 Location : exeter
| Subject: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:53 pm | |
| i have just finished reading cecil d'arcy' biography , and it states that the location of where he died was marked by an iron cross before being stolen, all that remains are apparently the screws that held it to the rock face. any info? |
| | | impi
Posts : 2308 Join date : 2010-07-02 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:09 pm | |
| He died in October 1881, the actual date is not known, but between 8 August & 28 December in the Arnatola Forest. |
| | | ciroferrara
Posts : 284 Join date : 2010-10-07 Age : 32 Location : exeter
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:27 pm | |
| those anyone know if the location is still readily known i.e photos |
| | | Mr Greaves
Posts : 747 Join date : 2009-10-18
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:29 pm | |
| Where is the Arnatola Forest. Nothing coming up on Google Earth. (Never herad of it) Anyone Know. Or did impi make it up. |
| | | John
Posts : 2558 Join date : 2009-04-06 Age : 61 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:04 am | |
| Where is the Arnatola Forest. Good question. I can't find it either. Been looking for ages. (Anyone know) |
| | | ciroferrara
Posts : 284 Join date : 2010-10-07 Age : 32 Location : exeter
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:22 pm | |
| according to his biography its near king williams town... and easily regognisable? |
| | | Dave
Posts : 1603 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:17 pm | |
| Not sure if this helps. But there is a refrence to Arnatola here.
On 9 March, five days after his arrival in Kingwilliamstown, and just days after Cunynghame’s departure for England, Thesiger was informed that a huge Ngqika force had eluded the patrols guarding the eastern approaches into the Amatolas, and reached the sanctuary of their former mountain stronghold. With the bulk of the army that Cunynghame had created policing the ravaged homeland of the Galekas, the only troops Thesiger could deploy in the Amatolas, were a few colonial commandos and the 2/24th, which was at that very moment disembarking at the port of East London. He gave the command of the Arnatola sector to Colonel Evelyn Wood, one of the special services officers who had accompanied him to South Africa.
Source: Military History Journal Vol 5 No 6 - December 1982 The Last Frontier War by Dr Philip Gon
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| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Where Cecil D'arcy FLH Died Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:14 am | |
| hi all. I checked the Index in ' From Midshipman To Field Marshall by Evelyn Wood . Page 7 . He refers to it as the Amatola Mountains . Page 9 . Next day I started with my interpreter , Paliso , who had accompanied me from the Amatola district , Kaffraria Page 27 -28 . '' The incessant work , however , now began to tell on me , and my glands swelled as they had done when I was overworked in the Amatola Mountains '' There is also a referance on page 85 which is MISSING from my copy !! :lol!: cheers 90th. |
| | | ciroferrara
Posts : 284 Join date : 2010-10-07 Age : 32 Location : exeter
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:56 pm | |
| according to the biography his place of death is half a mile off the right hand side of the road from keiskama's hoek to stutterheim, 5-6 miles beyond st.mathews mission. |
| | | Ken Gillings
Posts : 205 Join date : 2009-10-20 Age : 76 Location : Pinetown, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:17 pm | |
| As far as I am aware, Cecil D'Arcy (nephew of Robert D'Arcy) became a bit of a recluse and in 1881, he wandered off into the Amatola bush (near Keiskammahoek in the eastern Cape) and he died in a cave. His remains were subsequently recovered and he is buried in King William's Town. Regards, Ken |
| | | old historian2
Posts : 1093 Join date : 2009-01-14 Location : East London
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| Hi Ken. I read he fake his own death..
"He is also considered South African, though he probably considered himself British or Anglo-Irish. The Independent newspaper in London reported that the Captain famously faked his own death. "No longer is anyone likely to imitate Captain Henry Cecil Dudgeon D'Arcy of the Frontier Light Horse, who, having been awarded the VC in the Zulu wars, turned to drink. Later, a body wearing his clothes was found in a cave and, this being the pathology of a century ago, presumed to be his. Only many decades later was it learnt that D'Arcy had found a dead man lying in the snow, changed clothes with him, and gone to Natal, and lived out the rest of his life under an assumed name. He was once recognised in 1925, but swore his discoverer to the secret, which the man kept until D'Arcy died. "
But it appears no one knows why? |
| | | Ken Gillings
Posts : 205 Join date : 2009-10-20 Age : 76 Location : Pinetown, KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:41 am | |
| I'll dig around in my notes and try to find an answer. Regards, Ken |
| | | ciroferrara
Posts : 284 Join date : 2010-10-07 Age : 32 Location : exeter
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:57 pm | |
| i personally am inclined that faking his own death is as ian knight put it : to be considered as such stories like lord lucan or the nana sahib |
| | | Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Posts : 2593 Join date : 2009-04-24
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:08 pm | |
| - Quote :
- is as ian knight put it
Ouch!!!!! |
| | | ciroferrara
Posts : 284 Join date : 2010-10-07 Age : 32 Location : exeter
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:16 pm | |
| i heard there was a picture of cecil darcy in the john young collection from the 1860's taken in kingwilliamstown?? |
| | | littlehand
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| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:49 pm | |
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| | | 1879graves
Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:21 pm | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]North British Daily Mail 25 January 1882 |
| | | 1879graves
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| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:46 pm | |
| The Amatola Hiking Trail The Amatola Trail is reputedly the toughest and best hiking trail in South Africa. A Six day and five night hiking trail starting at Maden Dam near King Williams Town, traversing the incredible Amatola Mountains and ending in the iconic village of Hogsback. The trail is truly amazing and very strenuous so one needs to be prepared, however the views, remoteness, pristine indigenous forest and endless waterfalls make it one of, if not the, best hikes in South Africa. You must be fit and capable of hiking a minimum of 10 hours a day, never knowing what Mother Nature might throw at you. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] |
| | | gardner1879
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| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:05 pm | |
| Natal Witness Tuesday 16th August 1881 Mysterious Disappearence of Captain D'Arcy V.C. Search Parties sent out His coat found (per Webster's Agency) Kingswilliamtown Aug 15th The several search parties sent out by the Magistrates of Kriskama Hoek, Middle Drift and Stutterheim have not yet suceeded in finding Captain Cecil D'Arcy; but on Friday a party of school Kaffirs brought his overcoat to St Mathew's Mission Station having found it near the spot where he was last seen on Sunday 7th inst. A party of searchers left here again on Saturday afternoon.
12.5pm Capt Cecil D'Arcy was on a visit to the Rev. Faberer, St Mathew's Mission Station, Kriskama Hoek, and on the 7th inst disappeared. Hundreds of natives as well as civilians and bodies of the Cape Mounte Rifles have been searching for him since. Up to this time (12 o'clock) he has not been found. His coat was found last Saturday on the bank of a river. Great excitment in this town and much sympathy with his relatives.
Natal Witness Captain D'Arcy Search Abandoned as hopeless (per Websters Agency) Kingswilliamtown Aug 17th The special Magistrate of Kaiskama Hoek reports to the Civil Commissioner here that, having thoroughly searched all the country in his neighbourhood, he relinquishes with regret any further search for Capt D'Arcy, believing it to be hopeless. |
| | | gardner1879
Posts : 3458 Join date : 2021-01-04
| Subject: Re: place where cecil d'arcy FLH died Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:21 am | |
| Natal Witness 29th October 1881 It is reported at Kingswilliamstown, that Captain D'Arcy who so mysteriously disappeared a short time ago has been seen lately in Fauresmith, but very little credence can be placed on the statement. |
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