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Posts : 9821 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 62 Location : Melbourne, Australia
Subject: who knows ? Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:06 am
Rascal what are you trying to say 90th
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Subject: Re: Who knows ? Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:20 am
Hello dear Marsupial without pocket
For example, for a iviyo of 50 Zulu warriors, there how many udibi with them ?
this is the kind of proportion that I research...
Cheers
Pascal
bill cainan
Posts : 219 Join date : 2011-09-19
Subject: Re: Who knows ? Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:40 am
Pascal
I doubt if there is an exact figure per company . At the age of eleven or twelve the boys {izindibi (sing. udibi)} would be expected to act as servants to their fathers or elder brothers when they were travelling long distances. So the Zulu army marching to Isandlwana would have had an unknown number of boys accompanying it. How many boys of this age were there per family ? The number would also vary according to the age of the regiment. I have heard of a figure of up to a quarter of the number of warriors - but of course, that is a pure guesstimate.
I don't know if you have a copy of Ian Knight's "The Anatomy of the Zulu Army from Shaka to Cetshwayo 1818-1879". I would highly recommend it and it does give a lot of the detail you are seeking.
Bill
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Subject: Re: Who knows ? Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:11 am
Hello Mr.Cainan
"The Anatomy of the Zulu Army from Shaka to Cetshwayo 1818-1879" I got it, then I sold it ...
There are so many experts who tell different things ...
Thus, some write, that they accompanied the impis, than 3 days after their departure ...
Others write that they participated in combat!
Others write that they could serve as a decoy!
We can already imagine that the married regiments were accompanied by their younger children ...
It is also conceivable that unmarried regiments were accompanied by their younger brothers and sisters ...
But their role is not to be overlooked because they are the impis logistics ...
Best regards
Pascal
bill cainan
Posts : 219 Join date : 2011-09-19
Subject: Re: Who knows ? Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:17 am
Pascal
Yes indeed. There is so much that we will never know about the Zulu armies of 1879. I am particularly interested in how they exercised tactical command and control on the battlefield, but alas the details of that are lost in time.
Bill
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Who knows ? Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:16 pm
Hello Mr.Cainan
Elementary, necessarily with runners and messengers on horseback ...
Matter of logic, but with no write orders, it was simple commands and a good memory to the messengers.
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