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PostSubject: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:07 pm

Another one of my finds from the collectors' fair yesterday, was this photograph of a Major in the 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers, photographed at what is believed to be the Regimental Depot, circa 1890:

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Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers, circa 1890.
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Given the other paperwork that was there, I believe, that this officer may be George Froom or John Hume, who served in the 94th in 1879, I'd err towards the former.

There's a photograph of the what appears to be the same officer post 1880 on the Soldiers of the Queen site, see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:35 pm

John Young wrote:
I believe, that this officer may be George Froom or John Hume

John what's makes you think it's either of the above. ?
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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:24 pm

John,

As I wrote above given the paperwork that was there with the photograph it led my to that conclusion as it all related to the Depot of the Connaught Rangers.

The paperwork belonged to a Captain Edmund Alexander Grubbe, who joined the 88th (Connaught Rangers) Regiment in 1879 as a 2nd Lieutenant having previously served in the Royal Bucks Militia (The King's Own).  Grubbe did not serve with the 88th in South Africa as he was too late.

Later in his career whilst serving as a Captain he served at the Connaught Rangers Depot, at the time the Depot was under the command of Major John Hume, Major George Froom was the Brigade-Major of the Connaught's Brigade at the same time.

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Captain E.A. Grubbe on the left and two Majors, Depot, Connaught Rangers, circa 1890.
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There's an oil painting of Froom in the National Army Museum collection see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

However, it doesn't help matters as far as establishing an identity of the two officers in the photograph, in my opinion.

Sadly my wallet didn't run to the several thousands of pounds that the dealer was asking for the lot!

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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:48 pm

Great Photo John agree
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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:03 pm

Hi John

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I am going for Froom

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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:11 pm

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I see that the National Portrait Gallery holds two photographs of John James Francis Hume.

But it will cost £45.00 to see one of them Mad
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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:31 pm

"     Brig.-Gen. John James Francis Hume was born on 7 February 1858 at Nainl Tal, India.2 He was the son of Maj.-Gen. John James Hume and Mary Hunsbarrow.2 He was baptised on 10 March 1858 at Nynee Tal, Bengal, India.2 He married Ethel Pagden, daughter of Elgar Pagden and Margaret Bellhouse, in 1882.2 He died on 10 November 1935 at age 77.2
     He fought in the Zulu Wars between 1879 and 1881.2 He fought in the First Boer War between 1880 and 1881, where he was ganderously wounded and was mentioned in despatches.2 He was Officer in Charge of the Welsh Border Infantry Brigade in 1910.2 He gained the rank of Brigadier-General in 1914.2 He fought in the Commander between 1914 and 1917, 160th and 170th Infantry Brigades.2 He fought in the First World War between 1914 and 1917.2 He was invested as a Commander, Order of the British Empire (C.B.E.) in 1916.2 He lived at East House, Mortimer, Berkshire, England.1
Children of Brig.-Gen. John James Francis Hume and Ethel Pagden
Dorothy M. Hume2 b. c 1885
Lt.-Col. John Elgar Hume+2 b. 1886, d. 1962
Ethel Mary Hume2 b. 1887
Ruth Hume2 b. 1889"
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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:38 pm

Brig.-Gen. John James Francis Hume

"Obituary:
The Times, London, Thursday, Nov 14, 1935; pg. 16; Issue 47221; col D


Appointed Second Lieut. 94th Regiment from 2nd Middlesex Militia on 22nd February 1879; Lieut. 23rd June 1880; apptd. Adjutant 18th June 1881 to 1886, 2nd Battalion; Adjutant 3rd V.B. Northumberland Fusiliers 1886-1891; Captain 2nd Bn. The Connaught Rangers 17th December 1884; Major 1st July 1895; Lieut.Col. 8th February 1906; Bt.Colonel 8th February 1909; Colonel 8th February 1910; on Half-Pay 8th February 1910-30th June 1910; commanded Welsh Border Infantry Brigade 1910-1915; Brig.-General 1914; commanded 160th Infantry Brigade 1915-16 and 170th Infantry Brigade 1916; placed on Retired Pay 28th August 1916. Served in the South African War, Zulu Campaign, Battle of Ulundi, 1879; operations against Manyanyoba and other hostile chiefs and at storming of Sekukuni's stronghold, medal and clasp; in the Boer War 1880-1881 with the Head-quarters of 94th Foot, in the action of Modder Spruit, three times dangerously wounded, despatches; in the Great War 1915; Commanded 160th Brigade at Suvla Bay, Gallipoli; 1914-15 Star, British and Victory Medals, CBE."


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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:03 pm

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Major (later Lieutenant Colonel) George Froom, 2nd Battalion The Connaught Rangers
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Date painted: c.1881
Oil on canvas, 61 x 76.2 cm
Collection: National Army Museum
Froom wears the Zulu War Medal for 1877–1879. His regiment, formerly entitled the 94th Foot, had fought at the Battle of Ulundi and played an important part in the expedition against Sekukuni, a Transvaal chieftain based just outside Zululand. It was after the successful conclusion of these operations that a section of the 94th, which had been split into separate companies to police the Transvaal, suffered a disastrous defeat at Bronkhorst Spruit at the hands of local Boers. Froom, however, in command of ‘C’ Company, was warned of impending attack and immediately fortified the nearest garrison, Standerton, for which he was mentioned in despatches.

This painting may have been commissioned to commemorate both the award of the medal, probably received in 1881 when the regiment returned to Ireland from South Africa, and Froom’s majority which came into effect on 1 July 1881."
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PostSubject: A Major , 2nd Bttn , Con rgrs C 1890   Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:12 am

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I'm with Andy , I'll also go with Froom .
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PostSubject: A Major , 2nd Btn Con Rgr's c 1890    Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:29 am

some more on Capt. G.Froom 94th Regt , Capt's Froom and Poe served with the Regt until early in April they were left on detachment at Greytown ( Capt Froom Commanding ) where they remained until they rejoined the HQ -Qtrs at the Zlobane ; they subsequently took part in the Sekukuni Camp.

2nd Lt J.J.F.Hume 94th Regt , Hume served with the Regt during both the zulu & Sekukuni campaigns ; Lts Massy & Hume carrying the Colours at the Battle Of Ulundi .
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PostSubject: Re: A Major, 2nd Battalion, Connaught Rangers circa 1890.   Mon May 08, 2017 9:58 am

Just to carry this on further, here is a photograph of Brigadier John Hume, C.B.E., taken in 1922 at the time of the disbandment of the Connaught Rangers.

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Brigadier John Hume, C.B.E., 1922
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