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littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Iron Cross Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:07 pm | |
| Is the Iron cross still present at Isandlwana? |
| | | Dave
Posts : 1603 Join date : 2009-09-21
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:38 am | |
| There is a discussion on the cross on the forum somewhere. I think it was placed there by one of the bishops, but can't think of his name. However I beleive it disappeared years ago? Could be wrong! The discussion had photos posted by Steve & Frank.
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| | | Tim Needham
Posts : 303 Join date : 2011-10-18 Location : Cornwall
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:29 pm | |
| There remains an iron cross on a now anonymous grave within the Colonial cemetery on the battlefield, another was placed on Lt. Pope's grave at some point although this has long since disappeared along with various other individual grave markers.
Regards,
Tim |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:13 pm | |
| Thanks Tim. Took this from Mitfords book.
"below the ' neck' stands the iron cross erected by the Bishop of Maritzburg on the occasion of his holding a funeral service there. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:32 pm | |
| I'll have a look at my photos , if I come across It I'll send it to ' Graves1879 ' who'll kindly post it for us . 90th |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:34 pm | |
| 90th is it still located on the Neck? |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:37 pm | |
| No , I'm fairly certain it's in the Colonial Cemetery , if you wish send me your private email via the pm service , I'll send them to you very quickly while you are still up ! , if I actually have the pics ! lol . 90th |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:44 pm | |
| I do have an email, but can't remember login details. Should really get another one. |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:49 pm | |
| I've found 4 pics , 3 from 2014 and one from November , the cross is difficult to see , but of you look carefully in the group photo of the Colonial Cemetery Cairns you'll see it . I'll send them to Graves now , hopefully he'll post them soonish 90th |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:58 pm | |
| Littlehand I've sent the 4 pics I have of the Iron Cross to ' Graves1879 ' with luck he'll post them when he's able . 90th |
| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:07 pm | |
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| | | 1879graves
Posts : 3362 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:44 pm | |
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| | | littlehand
Posts : 7076 Join date : 2009-04-24 Age : 55 Location : Down South.
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:30 pm | |
| Thanks 90th / Graves.
Is there any chance that cross could have originated from the neck? |
| | | 90th
Posts : 10882 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 67 Location : Melbourne, Australia
| Subject: Iron Cross Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:26 am | |
| Happy to have been able to help littlehand , thanks Graves , much appreciated mate as always . Possibly it could've found it's way from the Nek , there was a bit of movement re the bones and everything else from memory . Some of the graves were actually marked with pieces of wood , kettles and pots etc , it was a pity these were moved / disturbed / taken or whatever , because names were on those items which showed the location of certain individuals remains. 90th |
| | | rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: Iron Cross Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:03 pm | |
| Couple of thoughts on this grave marker. It looks quite modern and the way the top is hammered over it looks like steel. Second, it does not look any way fancy enough to have been consecrated at a ceremony by a Bishop (Colenso?). The more ornate cast-iron version that can be seen in some of the old photos is a much more likely candidate to my mind.
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