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PostSubject: Battle of Hlobane   Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:31 am

Does anyone know if a record/source exists of individual participants in the battle? I am seeking information on my ancestor Trooper Archibald Mcneil, Border Horse and later Kimberley Horse, am trying to determine if he participated in this battle. I have his service medals, Queens South Africa Medal 1879 (service with Border Horse) and CGHGSM with bar for Basutoland (service with Kimberley Horse).
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PostSubject: Re: Battle of Hlobane   Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:44 pm

Can't find nothing on this chap, that not to say there isn't, What information do you have on him?
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PostSubject: Trooper Archibald McNeil   Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:04 am

Unfortunately not much other than the units inscribed on the medals. He is my maternal Great-Grandfather He would have had a son Louis Stephen McNeil (my grandfather) and siblings James McNeil and Margaret McNeil. I know he is on the Cape Of Good Hope General Service Medal Roll which was compiled by a Martin Wagner from NorthEastMedals in the UK.

I actually believe I know SLIGHTLY more about his father.

Here are details of his father:

Also Archibald McNeil born 1834 Glasgow Scotland died 9th July 1895 at Kimberley.

Thanks for your reply and interest
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PostSubject: Re: Battle of Hlobane   Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:57 pm

Hi, this may help and I suspect that these are the people you are after. The Captain McNeil I'm currently researching myself and would love to know more about him. I suspect he is the father of your Border Horse man. Note those are entries from my database.


McNEIL Archibald. Zulu War 1879; On 1.2.79 53 Cape Volunteers arrived from KWT raised in Dordrecht under Captain McNeil; these men joined the Frontier Light Horse. He is probably the same man that served in the Durban Volunteer Artillery.

McNEIL Archibald. Trooper, Border Horse, Anglo-Zulu War 1879. Trooper, ‘Right’ Wing, Kimberley Horse, Gun War (Basuto War) 1880-81. (Cattle prize money 1882). On 4.1.83 there was correspondence from the AAG Cape Forces in relation to a medal for the Basuto War. Anglo-Boer War; Lieutenant, 2nd Battalion, Cape Peninsula Rifles.

McNEIL Archibald. Carpenter and Builder, De Beers, Kimberley c1885. Son, Archibald served in the CP c1885.

McNEIL Archibald. Born Scotland. Enlisted (Kimberley) 21.2.85 (Age23). Constable, (Kimberley, District NoVII) Cape Police (No133). Discharged 18.11.87.

McNEIL Archibald. Lieutenant, Artillery Company, Durban Rifle Guard. In 1868 he left the volunteers with ten other gunners who formed the ‘Gold Exploring Company’. In October 1868 he had travelled with his party into the Western Transvaal and had received permission by Lobengula to prospect in Matabeleland however his party including himself became ill with fever and returned to Durban. In January 1869 his commission was cancelled for leaving the colony without permission. In 1869 he along with other urged the government to form a Volunteer Artillery Company. Lieutenant, Durban Volunteer Artillery 7.7.70. Captain and Officer Commanding, Durban Volunteer Artillery 19.4.76. Captain, Durban Volunteer Artillery, Zulu War 1879; Durban defence works.
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PostSubject: Re: Battle of Hlobane   Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:20 am

cam simpson

Lots of good information there. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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PostSubject: Batle Of Hlobane    Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:49 pm

Hi McneilBen
I'm not aware of any breakdown of individuals who took part in the Hlobane battle , unless they were KIA .
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PostSubject: Re: Battle of Hlobane   Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:25 am

Thanks 90th appreciate the reply
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