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PostSubject: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:51 am

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Based on Julians work, (in the latest essays), can anyone spot the mistake with Major Russell (assuming the officer is him).....and I don't mean he should be on a horse....?
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:47 pm

Sime,

When I saw it on the Britains’ site the figure appeared to be wearing an infantry pattern patrol jacket, rather than a R.A. one.

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:03 pm

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When I saw it on the Britains’ site the figure appeared to be wearing an infantry pattern patrol jacket, rather than a R.A. one.

JY

Oh God John, I am not so clever as to know the difference between the two, something more obvious if you have read the essay on William Taylor.....

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:24 pm

Sime,

Unfortunately Brecon were out of stock on Wednesday when I went order my copy, so I haven’t read the essay yet.

If you do a close-up on the officer figure I should be able to confirm things.

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:50 pm

Hi John

I am too waiting on stocks from the museum, they have told me that they will have stock very soon.

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:01 am

SRB
Well, I know the answer but will wait a bit longer to respond.
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Re Museum stocks, they are indeed sold out. Another supply will be ready at the printer's on Monday and should arrive at the museum by Thurs/Fri.
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:53 am

Hi Julian,

I guessed that you'd have spotted it...... Wink

When is Volume V due out.....I am eager to know 'what' they saw......now I know 'how' they saw it.....

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:08 am

Patience dear Simon, patience...I won't put a deadline on things because working with a printer/publisher means it's not always up to me, but soon.
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:10 pm

Bonsoir,
About Major Russell,RA, his sword was attached to his mount, not to his belt.
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:16 pm

Sime,

If you look carefully at the figure on Britains’ site, the figure is a line infantry officer and his sword isn’t connected to his belt either, as there are no sword slings.

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:51 pm

Bonsoir Mr Young,
I am intrigued by your answer. Please, can you take a look in the " silver book", p. 64 (comment) and p.67 Plate C2 ( Capt. Younghusband).
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:03 pm

Hi Fred/John,

Yes that was the thing I was one about, Frederic - that the model has his sword, but it was in fact on his horse.

Well, I never John.....there's naught wrong with your eyesight.....I dashed upstairs and looked - yes you are right, there's no sword slings.

John, is the main difference, in this scale, the number of rows of frogging on the chest - 4 for infantry and 5 for artillery?

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:18 pm

Sime,

Here’s a Royal Artillery officer in a patrol jacket, circa 1879:

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Then an infantry officer, photographed in Pretoria, circa 1880:

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Both are wearing the sword belts beneath their patrol jackets so that only the sword slings appear below the skirt of the jacket.

I can give you chapter & verse on the patrol jackets from Dress Regulations, 1874
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Sorry I don’t understand the point that you raise, would you mind explaining further?

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:26 pm

Bonsoir Mister Young,
I am sorry.
I wondered how you can see that "there are no sword slings".
According to the plate C2 "Photographs and memoirs confirm that the1846 pattern infantry officer's sword was carried in action by numbers of officers in 1879, the steel scabbard is slung from a waist belt worn beneath the Jacket".
Beneath the Jacket...So, you can't see the waist belt on the figurine of Russell. It's also the case with your two photographs.
I suppose, you have seen on another photograph of the figurine (Britain's site), that the "sword sling" was missing?
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:37 pm

Frederic,

Thanks for the clarification.

If you take a look at https://www.wbritain.com/product-store/20181---british-hale-rocket-battery you can see the infantry officer is most certainly missing his sword slings.

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:53 pm

Mr Young,
Thanks for the link and for your answer.
Effectively, you are right, the "sword slings" is missing.
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:55 am

John Young wrote:

I can give you chapter & verse on the patrol jackets from Dress Regulations, 1874
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I am afraid it would be wasted on me, John, I take in information, as an oilskin absorbs water.... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:27 pm

Another couple of dioramas, not quite finished yet.....

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:50 pm

Simon,

I know it isn’t your fault but the torrie on the glengarry on the figure in the firing-line should be dark blue/black rather than red. Red torries indicate a Royal Regiment.

I have previously e-mailed Britain’s about this point but never received a reply from them.

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PostSubject: Re: William Britain's Zulu War dioramas   Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:34 pm

Hi John,

Thanks - funny enough, I should have known that because when I painted by wargames figures, I got them right.......but TBH - I saw the Britain's figures torrie but it did not register

I'll touch the figure's Glengarry up

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