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What is the connection / link with this man and the Zulu War of 1879.

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General Sir William Francis Patrick Napier KCB

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I’ve thought about it, or should I say I Fort about it?

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Good guess John but incorrect Salute
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Having frantically trawled the internet......and this is the most spurious of connections......and it must be worth a 'point'......just for the complexity.....

Napier's brother (Robert) was the commander of the Abyssinian Expedition and Lord C was his deputy Adjutant General......Six degrees of separation and all that......

By the way, I never knew Wolseley lost an eye in the Crimea......nothing to do with this but I found it whilst searching....
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When I say I found it - not the eye obviously.......just the fact....
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There’s another brotherly link between his brother Charles and his conquest of Scinde (“Peccavi” - I have sinned.) and Henry Bartle Edward Frere.

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Good guesses by you both SRB1965 and John Young, you both have good links in away but not the one I am looking for.

I did not know there were going to so many other links (should have researched better) lol

Please keep trying, clues to follow if needed later.

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A brother, dunno which one (there seems a lot of Napier's flying around) was Governor of Natal, he expelled (or caused the migration of) the Boers in 1830 something......a direct cause of the yahoo with the Zulus......

Another point .....maybe....?
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Ah ha got it......Harry Smith served in the 'Light Bobs'.......as did 'the' or 'a' Napier (or in fact most of them)......Harry and Mrs Smith...had a pad (Ladysmith) now in Zululand (?) - which was where the Zulu war happened.....

Game set and match - Sime or at least a point?

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Sime

Still not the link I am looking for but a very good try.

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Hi Andy
Did you get the email I sent you with the pics ? .
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Hi Gary

Yes I did, many thanks, I will post the pics later today.

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Thanks Andy Salute Salute Salute Salute
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Clue time.

1) GENEALOGY

2) NEWCASTLE (South Africa not UK Newcastle)

You need to study mo


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Glue time - what you sniffing?

Sergeant-Major W. Napier of the Newcastle Mounted Rifles, perhaps?

Napier Place where Pioneer Park is in Newcastle, KZN?

Pass...

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I give in......Napier's brother (George) was Governor of the Cape.......a town called Napier is somewhere there.....but no where near Newcastle.

OK lets go with this....William Napier is buried in the same cemetery as Henry Bessemer (who devised a new method of steel making) - in Newcastle SA - there is a steel works.....

Other than that I surrender......

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YES well done to all

Sergeant-Major William Napier, Newcastle Mounted Rifles.

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Hi John

Just seen what I wrote Shocked

Many thanks for pointing it out to me Joker
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