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Lt. Melvill: Well done, Sir! Did you see that Noggs? Deceived him with the up and took him with the down. Norris-Newman: Well well, this one\'s a grandfather at least. If he\'d been a Zulu in his prime I\'d have given odds against your lancer, Mr.Melvill.
 
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PostSubject: Put a name to these chaps.    Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:49 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:20 pm

From left too right
Alfred Saxty, Caleb Wood, Frank Bourne,  ? ,  John Jobbins, William Cooper

Gateshead Tattoo 1934

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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:59 am

I can probably hear the laughter issuing from Essex now.......( Joker ) but having had a nose on the internet, it says that there were 5 surviving members of the RD garrison (at Gateshead) - the ones named by Kate above.

Is it possible that the uniformed officer (who looks younger) was a 'modern' representative from the SWB?

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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:34 am

The serving officer was Capt H M StJ Carpendale MC South Wales Borderers. During the tattoo at Revensworth Castle 2nd Battalion South Wales Borderers re-acted the Defence of Rorke’s Drift under the direction of Capt Carpendale over the period 7-14 July 1934.
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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:42 am

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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:15 pm

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From The South Wales Borderers ( 24th Regiment of Foot ) 1881-1969
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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:00 pm

Thanks Lee. Great photo. Very close to the original painting.
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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:31 pm

Hi,

This may be a strange question (and its not meant to be anyway 'racist') but where did the (few) 'Zulus' come from in the photograph above.

Its been estimated that 10,000 Afro-Caribbean people lived in the UK (total population - around 46m) at the start of WW2.

Was there an attempt to recruit the 'Zulus' from the local Geordies or were they Europeans in make-up?

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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:45 pm

Certainly at the Cardiff Tattoos in 1968 and in 1979, where the Defence of Rorke’s was re-created for audiences, the Zulus were members of the regiment dressed up, i.e. 1 SWB and 1 RRW.  This was most likely the case in 1934 at Gateshead. I am not sure this approach would be possible today - how the world has changed.
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PostSubject: Re: Put a name to these chaps.    Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:23 pm

Probably something like we see here on these two postcards from 1912

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