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Captain David Moriarity, 80th, KIA Ntombe
This photograph taken when he was in the 7th Regiment prior to his transfer to the 80th. [Mac & Shad] (Isandula Collection)
The Battle of Isandlwana: One of The Worst Defeats of The British Empire - Military History
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PostSubject: Organized massacre !   Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:08 am

Hi all

While technically it was possible to fire much faster than with a MLR, why british combat tactical reglement, ordered low rates of fire with the BLR ?

In reality at Isandhlwana , they have fired less ammunition per minutes that allowed british combat tactical reglement in volley fire, 4 C/P/Minutes, this rate was never reached in the line of fire during 120 mm...

I'm sure the line of fire, during 120 minutes, the defenders would not have used less ammunition, if they had the MLR ...

Ammunition did not fail to Isandhlwana, but their distribution and allocations were mispriced because the adversary and his aggressive tactics was also mispriced ...

Even if they stopped to shoot 3 X 10 minutes in the line of fire, say they have learned that 60 minutes, it could have used 240 cartridges per man, which was impossible due to lack of ammunition on the line of fire and in the camp ...

In fact it was allocated to the infantry, less ammunition which could fired, same in following the tactic Regulations !!!

In addition when I see the number of rounds it takes to affect a single Zulu warrior, it's scary.

Most Zulu are killed at very short distance or in melee...

More LC ordered starting fires only at 600 yards, including with artillery, incomprehensible to me ...

Isandhlwana is a organized massacre by LC !

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PostSubject: Re: Organized massacre !   Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:19 am

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PostSubject: Re: Organized massacre !   Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:33 am

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PostSubject: Re: Organized massacre !   Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:27 pm

The ammuntion expenditure is covered in the link attached.
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PostSubject: Re: Organized massacre !   Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:50 pm

No sir,there are not exactly the same topic of conversation, but comparisons of the rates of fire of the MHR ,between the theory, tactical regulations and which was being made on the ground in battle and the resultat at Isandhlwana ...

That's why I thought a good old british battalion of the eighth Cape war , with its model 1842 muskets, would have taken no worse than the 24 th at Isandhlwana with his MH ...
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PostSubject: Re: Organized massacre !   Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:50 pm

At Isandlwana, the attack was unexpected. If the men had been prepaired it would have been another story..
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PostSubject: Re: Organized massacre !   Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:08 am

Not agree, given the rates of fire, tactical reglement of 1877, orders and instructions for the defense of the camp of LC, it was a ensured defeat ...

Unless they are behind any obstacle, which is forbidden by LC ...

Normally, the volley fire is four shots per minute and independent fire 12 fires per minute, this has never been done ...

That's why I thought a good old british battalion of the eighth Cape war , with its model 1842 muskets, would have taken no worse than the 24 th at Isandhlwana with his MH ...

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