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PostSubject: The Graphic    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon Dec 19, 2016 5:28 am

Very happy , I stumbled across a bound copy containing editions of ' The Graphic ' newspapers from Dec 1878 - June 1879 , for the Princely sum of 87 GBP's , found a couple of other sets yesterday where Amazon wanted 1,000 + GBP's ! . Woo Hooo .
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Well done mate! A good price.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon Dec 19, 2016 12:46 pm

Yes Gary..great result!, i envy you all those
happy hours going through it.. Very Happy xhosa
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyTue Dec 20, 2016 8:41 am

The seller sent me an email overnight , he has the second part from July - Dec 79 , he said I can have it for the same price I paid for the other , as you can imagine I took his offer ! Joker Joker Joker Joker Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas .
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great result and also stopping it being broken up and sold as individual pages as is the norm!!
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyTue Dec 20, 2016 10:06 am

Hi Sergio
Yes Mate that's right , very hard to find them bound in bulk editions nowadays .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed Feb 15, 2017 12:16 pm

Stanford's Popular Map of the British Possessions in South Africa published on 17 February 1879 just three weeks after Isandhlwana. Stanford's was the premier map publisher and retailer at the time and continues to be so today but now in Long Acre, London. Interesting to note the range of SA maps they produced at the time, with the latest in preparation showing the disputed boundary changes in Zululand. Would love to come across the huge four sheet map of the Colony of Natal that is listed - never seen one.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyTue Feb 21, 2017 6:24 pm

Like buses, old maps seem to all arrive at once! This one was sold in W H Smith at the time for the grand price of sixpence. Published on 11 January 1879 it shows the three columns poised to invade. Produced by Bartholomews for Smiths and available at all railway stations - just think how many that was in 1879. Very pleased to get it as these flimsy paper versions rarely survive.
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2017 1:04 pm

Well done Steve
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PostSubject: War map   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed Feb 22, 2017 1:38 pm

Hi Steve,

Indeed,..... a VERY nice find. What a piece of Africana !!
Looking at the detail however I am very amused at the place called New Scotland to the west of  Swaziland.
Their idea of the Zulu coastline then seems very skewed. If anything like this map was used to navigate poor
HMS Tenedos up the coast, there is no wonder that she came ashore and lost her bottom.
I see too a major waterway with large opening to the sea  to the north of St Lucia lake, which is not there now and neither was it then.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu Feb 23, 2017 5:32 pm

Hi Barry

It's interesting to compare some of the commercial maps of the time.
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Left is the Smiths map of 1879, then Jepp's map of 1877, Wyld's map of 1879 and Stanford's of 1879. I suspect that Jepp's is the most accurate but they are all reasonably consistent, as you would expect by this date. Let's hope HMS Tenedos and her sister ships had the benefit of Admiralty charts though!

New Scotland also appears on an Intelligence Branch map of 1881.
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Nice 1939 first edition with dust jacket.
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyFri Mar 10, 2017 11:22 pm

Good one Steve
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Robinson includes a good description of the panic which ensued after the ' Thunderclap '
( his word ) to describe the news of Isandhlwana.
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon Mar 13, 2017 12:18 am

Good Stuff Les .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon Mar 13, 2017 12:28 pm

Hey Gary.. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu Mar 16, 2017 10:37 pm

I collect old book's on VC's, They always seem to contain
Zulu War VC's, here's a few of them.. worth collecting i
think. all are still available on various book sites, but can
now be quite pricey, i'm so glad i bought mine many years
ago when prices were very reasonable.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu Mar 16, 2017 10:40 pm

I would not hazard a guess what rusteze paid for that dj.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyFri Mar 17, 2017 1:31 am

Normally it takes a crowbar to prise open my wallet - or so my wife says!

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyFri Mar 17, 2017 8:51 am

Excellent collection Les .

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Very Happy agree agree agree agree Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 3:27 pm

Gary.. Salute .. this arrived this morning, looks very
interesting, looking forward to reading it.

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon Mar 20, 2017 11:06 pm

Hi Les
Is she a fictional character , I think I do remember reading of this somewhere ? . I picked up the book '' Paulina Dlamini ; Servant Of Two Kings ' it was compiled by Heinrich Filter translated and edited by S Bourquin . She was a servant to Ceteswayo before , during and after the AZW , she becomes a Christian and then serves God , I haven't read it yet , its on a large pile to be read ! . Hope you are well, 8 days to go ! .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyTue Mar 21, 2017 1:30 pm

Hiya Gary, no she was a real person, and her story was very nearly lost
forever..although her great granddaughter is a journalist it was for her
like pulling reluctant teeth drawing the story from various family members.
but the story is told in first person, an extract below.

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Yeah mate i enjoyed reading Paulina's story, it just adds another layer of perspective
and dimension especially coming from a female in a male dominated society.

Only seven days now Gary, you will soon be walking the places you have come to love
good on ya. cheers xhosa

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed Mar 22, 2017 12:27 am

Thanks Les , much appreciated , I'll look for it in SA or when I get back , I may have a weight issue ( one of our mountains is missing ! ) hahahahahahaha . Down 7 days now , Barry please tell me there is no more Cyclonic weather on the radar ?? .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed Mar 22, 2017 4:03 pm

Hi there.
Wyld,s Military Map is very interesting. It only has one battle marked with the usual crossed swords. That is the battle at Insandusana, January 22nd. I imagine that this map was one of the first to be produced following the disaster.
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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu Mar 23, 2017 5:02 am

Hi Wentworth
That's strange , as the Battle at Nyezane was a few hours before isandlwana , it started about 8am , and lets not forget Rorke's Drift it was also on the same day and into the next day . I cant see a reason why the Wyld map doesn't include the other battles ? .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu Mar 23, 2017 6:34 am

The Wylds map series has iSandlwana as Number 2.
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Your heading into high 20s temp Gary. Very humid, overcast with a small amount of rain. Pretty much average for the time of year mate.

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Hi Frank
IK and his 17 leave London tomorrow I go Kambula Day , I'll meet up with them at the Lodge on April 2 , they leave on the 5th , then I have Paul Naish to ferry me around to here , there , and everywhere , till he drops me back in Durban for the flight out on April17 . Hopefully most if not all the rain has fallen ? lollllllll.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed May 03, 2017 12:44 pm

Our brave allies the Swazi's.. taken in the early 20th century.

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There is a wealth of material out there, i am pleased with the two books below, they are
from the library of Prof Huw Jones..Hilda Kuper studied the Swazi in depth in the 1930's
and 40's.. included in the book's are personal cards and letters.

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I could'nt leave it there at that price.

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptySun May 07, 2017 3:25 am

Well done Les , they can be expensive at times .
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Yeah, hiya mate. Salute i will find it a new home,glad your
trip was good, and thanks for the info. Very Happy xhosa
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed May 17, 2017 12:22 pm

Today I have had the pleasure of doing the ultimate 'Adding to the Library'. I took delivery of the Rob Gerrard Collection. It was quite sad looking through his books and seeing the various notes from clients he had guided around the battlefield. It again brought home to me just what a gifted and beautifull man he really was. Without doubt his presence on the tours will be sadly missed. I personally will take great pleasure in reading the various footnotes and comments he has penciled in to record his view and at times disdain. Just seeing the coffee ring stains on top of one of the books seemed to bring a sense of normality to his life.
I'm really very lucky to have acquired a portion of Robs life and thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed May 17, 2017 2:58 pm

Excellent Frank.. they have found a good home. his collection
is in safe hands. i am of course full of envy..but content!.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed May 17, 2017 3:21 pm

Well done Frank. Very appropriate.

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu May 18, 2017 12:45 pm

Nice pick up Frank , but I heard a lot of the rarer books were taken by his Sister Sally ?
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu May 18, 2017 1:49 pm

Hi Gary
I got to pick and choose and really only left out the more modern L and Q and Snook. But the first editions, C T Binns and Elliot etc I have and again the rarer Red Book and RD by those who were there etc. Happy with the 20 odd I got. As I mentioned yesterday there are a lot of notes in the books, typically forthright Rob notes. They shall remain private.

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I'd like to know what Sally took with her Shocked . Well done in any case , and I agree , his notes should remain private .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu May 18, 2017 2:01 pm

I'm pretty sure a few of the books did go with her but I have a feeling it was those with dedications. I know he had a couple of 'Royal' signatures and words of praise. The very definite one missing was the CT Atkinson regimental history.
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Still a very good starter pack, i'm in touch
with Jonathan, he just had some very bad
new's, my thoughts are with him, i gave my
spare copy of the Atkinson away a few months
ago to a very very nice guy.
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I heard about his dad. Sad news indeed
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyMon May 22, 2017 10:34 pm

I seem to be getting further and further from the AZW.

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Yes Les I seem to be doing the same thing , I've purchased a couple of books on the sinking of HMS Birkenhead in 1853 from memory , haven't read them yet , but once I finish Bengough's book... think I'll read those two !
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The Birkenhead sunk of Hermanus a few miles up the coast from Cape Town. Theres a Hotel by the same name close by. I seem to recall it was the Birkenhead sinking that originated the tradition of Women and Children first.
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Yes Frank that's correct , it was where Woman & Children first came into being , I think technically it was known as ' The Birkenhead Drill , the Great White Sharks had a field day ! . Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Cost me 2 quid.. 1878, usual problem with un-cut pages.

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PostSubject: Adding to the Library    Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyWed Jun 21, 2017 1:46 am

Salute , seems a nice get ! . Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 8 EmptyThu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm

Cheers Gary, there so fragile i dare not mess with them. Salute

This one below gives a nice account from the rank's.

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Hi Les
I've got the Guthrie Saga and read it , unfortunately he becomes ill and his Diary misses the good bits from memory while he's
unfit for duty ! . Interesting read all the same .
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