WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu: (Michael Caine) If 1200 men couldn't hold a defensive position this morning, what chance have we with 100?
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Stevenson's Horse 1879 medal
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyToday at 6:58 pm by blind pew

» Annie Crisp Bond
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyToday at 6:02 pm by Ssinger

» Word Search Brain Training. All to do with Zulu War. 34 words to find.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyToday at 5:29 pm by Frank Allewell

» Fred Godwin- Austen
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyYesterday at 2:50 pm by ADMIN

»  P. C. Van Niekerk B/3rd Cape Yeo.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyWed May 12, 2021 1:04 pm by gardner1879

» 2nd Lieut. S. Strong 90th MID for Khambula
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyWed May 12, 2021 1:21 am by 90th

» W.Brandes 90th Light Infantry
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyMon May 10, 2021 9:41 am by rai

» Gunner T.Stoker 7th Brigade
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun May 09, 2021 6:35 pm by gardner1879

» Officers at Ulundi
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun May 09, 2021 6:54 am by Frank Allewell

» Possible Zulu war medal holder and family.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat May 08, 2021 12:14 am by WeekendWarrior

» Orderly Room Sergeant role
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun May 02, 2021 7:17 pm by jancodk

» Melvill's Revolver Cylinder
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat May 01, 2021 6:58 pm by Julian Whybra

» Colour - Sergeant George William Mabin
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat May 01, 2021 6:15 pm by Visitor

» The Passing of Her Majesty Queen Mantfombi Dlamini Zulu.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Apr 30, 2021 9:37 am by ADMIN

» Ian Knight Questions and answers
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 29, 2021 11:51 pm by aussie inkosi

» Sir Henry Bartle Frere letter to Sir Henry Ponsonby
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 29, 2021 6:39 pm by gardner1879

» Boy 1st Class Thomas Harris
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun Apr 25, 2021 6:19 pm by RickB

» Gabangaye - was he ubidied?
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Apr 23, 2021 2:43 pm by Julian Whybra

» List of identified bodies at Isandlwana
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 22, 2021 8:26 pm by Frank Allewell

» 1595 Pte. E. Jones 2/24th
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 22, 2021 10:40 am by RickB

» New British Muzleloaders videos on Isandlwana
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyWed Apr 21, 2021 3:33 pm by Frank Allewell

» Library destroyed
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyTue Apr 20, 2021 5:42 am by barry

» Zulu War Medal
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Apr 17, 2021 4:38 pm by Bill8183

» sergeant G J Brown
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm by 90th

» Captain HUGH O'DONNELL.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Apr 16, 2021 7:32 pm by WeekendWarrior

» Great Grandfather James (Jimmy) Robinson DCM
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Apr 16, 2021 3:54 pm by Kenny

» In Affectionate Remembrance of P.C. Stephens
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Apr 16, 2021 1:36 pm by gardner1879

» Trpr. Simpson's medal
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm by Julian Whybra

» Someone maybe able to help. 2235 Pte A F Edmonds J7th DCOLrg
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 08, 2021 3:30 am by 90th

» Medal ribbon on Patrol Jacket
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun Apr 04, 2021 9:47 pm by John Young

» One of the lesser-known stories. It took place around the same time as Isandlwana.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun Apr 04, 2021 9:54 am by Julian Whybra

» Isandlwana Survivor photo's
Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Apr 03, 2021 7:06 pm by ADMIN

» <Pte. W. Dunne 2nd Btn 3rd (East Kent) Regiment ('The Buffs') & Sgt. O. Hydenburg (Aydenburg) Natal Native Contingent,)
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Apr 02, 2021 1:33 pm by gardner1879

» William Papworth. Alan Gardner's servant.
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 01, 2021 10:28 pm by gardner1879

» Smith-Dorrien 1881
Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Apr 01, 2021 5:45 pm by John Young

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Rorke's Drift to the British Museum: Story of Henry Hook
Top posters
90th
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
littlehand
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
ADMIN
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
1879graves
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
rusteze
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
John
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
gardner1879
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
John Young
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
90th
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
1879graves
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
rai
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
ADMIN
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Visitor
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
blind pew
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Peter35
Bromhead's Groom  Bar_leftBromhead's Groom  BarBromhead's Groom  Bar_right 
Most active topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable.1
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.5
Durnford was he capable. 4
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
Natal Durnford horse Franklin melvill 24th john henry james zulu spalding George payne Police Forbes smith Mounted taylor Woolfryes Russell martini carbineers drift harford Isandlwana Prince
 

 Bromhead's Groom

Go down 
AuthorMessage
1879graves

1879graves

Posts : 3172
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptyFri Sep 03, 2010 7:21 pm

Hi All

Does anyone know who Gonville Bromhead's groom was?

Was the groom at RD, Isandlwana or with the Good Lord C?

Any help would be great

Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
ADMIN

ADMIN

Posts : 4180
Join date : 2008-11-01
Age : 62
Location : KENT

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Sep 04, 2010 12:06 pm

Graves received this from David Payne. (He having a few problems logging on.

Quote :
"The groom was a Pte Keall of the 2/24 - as a matter of interest the groom fell off Bromhead’s horse on the march to Ulundi and broke his arm. I have all of his papers at home and if any more info is required I will dig it out."
Back to top Go down
https://www.1879zuluwar.com
90th

90th

Posts : 10268
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Bromhead's Groom.   Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Sep 04, 2010 1:00 pm

hi graves.
This from The Noble 24th by Norman Holme . W. KEALL 1614 Private , South Africa Medal with Clasp 77--78 - 79.
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
1879graves

1879graves

Posts : 3172
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Sep 04, 2010 7:55 pm

Hi All

Many thanks for the information, I just needed someone to confirm his name and it was the same one I had.

David
"the groom fell off Bromhead’s horse on the march to Ulundi and broke his arm", Could you please tell me the source of this information? as I have William Keall breaking his arm after Ulundi scratch

I still have one question, Was the William Keall at RD, Isandlwana or with the Good Lord C?

Idea
Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
90th

90th

Posts : 10268
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Bromhead's Groom.   Bromhead's Groom  EmptySat Sep 04, 2010 9:24 pm

Hi Andy.
Had a quick look through Julian Whybra's Englands Sons and couldnt see a reference to Keall at R.D will check after
work this afternoon for Isandlwana etc .
cheers 90th. Idea .
Back to top Go down
90th

90th

Posts : 10268
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Bromhead's Groom.   Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun Sep 05, 2010 8:36 am

hi graves.
Couldnt find anything on W. Keall . 614 2 / 24th. I would have thought he would be at R.D with Bromhead .
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
1879graves

1879graves

Posts : 3172
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptySun Sep 05, 2010 4:33 pm

Hi 90th

Many thanks for having a look Idea That's what I thought scratch

So we now are down to, Was William Keall at Isandlwana or with the Good Lord C?
And why was he not with Bromhead?
scratch
Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
90th

90th

Posts : 10268
Join date : 2009-04-07
Age : 65
Location : Melbourne, Australia

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Bromhead's Groom.   Bromhead's Groom  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 12:31 am

hi all.
I think Keal wasnt Gonny's groom till after the 22nd Jan , that would explain why he isnt mentioned at R.D and also not
mentioned as a survivor of Isandlwana . More than likely he was out with the Good Lord exploring the Hills .
cheers 90th.
Back to top Go down
ADMIN

ADMIN

Posts : 4180
Join date : 2008-11-01
Age : 62
Location : KENT

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptyMon Sep 06, 2010 7:31 pm

"As a Lt would he have qualified for a groom – maybe this happened upon his promotion to Major – I have looked through the paperwork I hold which is mainly his medical records and I cannot find out when he was allocated to Bromhead. What I have found out is that he did not break his right arm until the 4th August 1879 – this was one month after Ulundi. He was discharged from the army in April 18 Idea 80 having completed over 15 years – he appeared in the defaulters book twice during this period. Some of his service was in Rangoon and the Cape of Good Hope."

Sorry I have no further info at this point but I will continue to search.
From David Payne.


Last edited by Admin on Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:42 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Correction made on behalf of Mr David Payne.)
Back to top Go down
https://www.1879zuluwar.com
1879graves

1879graves

Posts : 3172
Join date : 2009-03-03
Location : Devon

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Sep 09, 2010 9:34 pm

Admin wrote:
He was discharged from the army in April 1980 having completed over 15 years

I love mis-typo's :lol!: :lol!: :lol!:

David

I have the same info as you do. Idea

Tim Needham and I have talked about this subject and could he be the groom of Charles Bromhead?
scratch
Back to top Go down
http://zuluwar1879.tribalpages.com
ADMIN

ADMIN

Posts : 4180
Join date : 2008-11-01
Age : 62
Location : KENT

Bromhead's Groom  Empty
PostSubject: Re: Bromhead's Groom    Bromhead's Groom  EmptyThu Sep 09, 2010 9:42 pm

Graves you meant "Admin posted on behalf of David" (Don't shoot the messager) Rolling Eyes
Back to top Go down
https://www.1879zuluwar.com
 
Bromhead's Groom
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: