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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 6:49 pm

A talented man.
Shows that the army not only is, but has always been a meritocracy, where no matter how humble one's beginnings, a man (or woman) can make as much of themselves as their talent will take them.
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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 7:03 pm

Hi Littlehand

Now this one is a good one, there is a possibility that he might have been in the Zulu War, let me explain.

On the medal roll, he is listed as having the medal but with No clasp.

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So we now know he did not cross into Zululand.

Now we need to have a look at his service record.

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From his Service Record, we can see that he left the Army in February 1879.

Without checking the Pay & Muster Rolls (Which I do not have access to), it is too close to call as to whether we can say that he took part in the Zulu War or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 7:59 pm

Thanks Graves. Is there any other way we could find out. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyMon Feb 27, 2012 9:07 pm

If he received the SA 1877 - 89 medal with no clasp, we can infer he "took part" in the war, but was unlikely to have seen action, since those not awardeed the clasp did not cross onto the hostile side of the Buffalo river.
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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 3:37 pm

Getting Old. I'm surprised Graves & 90th didn't pick-up on this. Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 3:59 pm

Hi Admin & Littlehand

Admin
The link that you posted was under GENEALOGY and had moved off Sweeny somewhat.

Littlehand
You were asking a question under this thread, so you were correct in posting it. Salute

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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 4:19 pm

scratch Same guy i hope. Or is the Admin link a different "Sweeney"
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PostSubject: Robert Sweeney    Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 8:02 pm

Hi Littlehand .
I'll go its the same guy , but on looking at the medal roll for the 2 / 3rd Regt there is only 1 sweeney , and he is listed as a
D. Sweeney 45 / 467 ; Medal with 79 Clasp !. Maybe one for '' Graves '' to sort out . Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 8:20 pm

Hi 90th

There are two Sweeney's listed on the 2nd 3rd Medal Roll.

1248 Bandmaster R. Sweeney
45/467 Private D. Sweeney.

The article link & Littlehands article are talking about 1248 Bandmaster R. Sweeney.

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PostSubject: Robert Sweeney    Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 8:34 pm

Hi Graves .
Damn , he certainly isnt in the copy of the roll I have at my Dad's place !!!. I'll check the others when I get home later . Salute
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Maybe if I looked under '' Bandmaster '' and not Private , I would have found it !!. Suspect Suspect


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PostSubject: Re: Mr Robert Sweeney ?   Mr Robert Sweeney ? EmptyTue Feb 28, 2012 9:08 pm

I can't make Littlehand original link work. This on seems to work.

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