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Lord Chelmsford Said .Buller is ‘one of the finest soldiers of the century’, so modest and reticent –that it was difficult to say for what individual deed he had got the Victoria Cross as he had been doing acts worthy of it all along the line
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See the entrenchments made at the Battle of Centane by the Captain Upcher!
Why does not LC mimics the Captain Upcher in this battle for Isandhlwana ?
He had no knowledge of the good tactic of the Captain Upcher versus a African charge ?
Cheers
Pascal
bill cainan
Posts : 225 Join date : 2011-09-19
Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:16 am
Pascal
As I understand it, at Centane, Rainforth's G Company, acting in a skirmishing role,drew the attackers onto the bulk of Upcher's force who were in "well-concealed" trenches. However, it was the "excellence" of the 24th's markmanship that ultimately won the day with the Gaikas/Galekas only getting to within 400 yards of the firing line.
I would suggest at Isandlwana, there was no need to draw the Zulus on ! Also, the ground at Isandlwana is essentially shale - almost impossible to dig trenches ! The firing line at Isandlwana performed as well as it had done at Centane, until it was ultimately outflanked. Trenches would have made no difference.
Bill
tasker224
Posts : 2102 Join date : 2010-07-30 Age : 53 Location : North London
Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:25 am
The Gaikas/Galekas at Centane in 1878 were a different kettle of fish entirely to the Zulu at iSandlwana in 1879. Echo Bill's comments.
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Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:36 am
Hi Bill&Tasker
Who is the one who chose the place to build the camp of the third column, they could not provide a more appropriate location and copy what was done to Centane?
Underestimation of the determination of the Zulus, their number is incredible ...
I do not want to be rude, but rarely has an army, commanded so bad ...
Chelmsford should have been punished, back in civilian ect ...
Cheers
pascal
bill cainan
Posts : 225 Join date : 2011-09-19
Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:59 am
Tasker
Cheers
Pascal
I seem to be in the minority of people who do not condemn Chelmsford out of hand. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on his abilities as an army commander. I suspect with the benefit of hindsight, that we are all blessed with, Chelmsford may have approached the initial invasion somewhat differently !
Bill
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Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:42 am
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