Zulu Dawn:“Excuse me, my Lord, there's something I must convey to you. I rode along the track down to Rorke's Drift. The sky above is red with fire. Your orders my Lord? Do we move to the drift?”
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See the entrenchments made at the Battle of Centane by the Captain Upcher!
Why does not LC mimics the Captain Upcher in this battle for Isandhlwana ?
He had no knowledge of the good tactic of the Captain Upcher versus a African charge ?
Cheers
Pascal
bill cainan
Posts : 225 Join date : 2011-09-19
Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:16 am
Pascal
As I understand it, at Centane, Rainforth's G Company, acting in a skirmishing role,drew the attackers onto the bulk of Upcher's force who were in "well-concealed" trenches. However, it was the "excellence" of the 24th's markmanship that ultimately won the day with the Gaikas/Galekas only getting to within 400 yards of the firing line.
I would suggest at Isandlwana, there was no need to draw the Zulus on ! Also, the ground at Isandlwana is essentially shale - almost impossible to dig trenches ! The firing line at Isandlwana performed as well as it had done at Centane, until it was ultimately outflanked. Trenches would have made no difference.
Bill
tasker224
Posts : 2101 Join date : 2010-07-30 Age : 54 Location : North London
Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:25 am
The Gaikas/Galekas at Centane in 1878 were a different kettle of fish entirely to the Zulu at iSandlwana in 1879. Echo Bill's comments.
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Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:36 am
Hi Bill&Tasker
Who is the one who chose the place to build the camp of the third column, they could not provide a more appropriate location and copy what was done to Centane?
Underestimation of the determination of the Zulus, their number is incredible ...
I do not want to be rude, but rarely has an army, commanded so bad ...
Chelmsford should have been punished, back in civilian ect ...
Cheers
pascal
bill cainan
Posts : 225 Join date : 2011-09-19
Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:59 am
Tasker
Cheers
Pascal
I seem to be in the minority of people who do not condemn Chelmsford out of hand. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on his abilities as an army commander. I suspect with the benefit of hindsight, that we are all blessed with, Chelmsford may have approached the initial invasion somewhat differently !
Bill
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Subject: Re: Captain Upcher Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:42 am
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