WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Zulu Dawn:“Excuse me, my Lord, there's something I must convey to you. I rode along the track down to Rorke's Drift. The sky above is red with fire. Your orders my Lord? Do we move to the drift?”
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Bt. Major. Harvey, C.L. 71st L.I.
 Captain Upcher EmptyToday at 7:28 pm by John Young

» Best Zulu wars documentary full.
 Captain Upcher EmptyToday at 8:52 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant Thomas Leigh Hare, 24th
 Captain Upcher EmptyYesterday at 6:16 am by 90th

» FIND-A-GRAVE WEBSITE
 Captain Upcher EmptyWed Sep 15, 2021 8:02 am by rai

» 2nd Lieutenant Thomas Leigh Hare, 24th - Sword
 Captain Upcher EmptyTue Sep 14, 2021 4:59 pm by Brin

» Henry William Longcast, Interpreter.
 Captain Upcher EmptyMon Sep 13, 2021 8:35 pm by Trev

» Zulu Dinner Event 30th October
 Captain Upcher EmptyMon Sep 13, 2021 11:48 am by Julian Whybra

» Matabele Wars
 Captain Upcher EmptyMon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 am by Frank Allewell

» Alexandra Mounted Rifles, full biographical details
 Captain Upcher EmptySat Sep 11, 2021 8:38 am by bazley@mweb.co.za

» Rorke's Drift defenders.
 Captain Upcher EmptyThu Sep 09, 2021 11:10 pm by Spudee

» Murray Charles Wyndham C.B
 Captain Upcher EmptyWed Sep 08, 2021 6:49 am by Frank Allewell

» New Member - Old Questions?
 Captain Upcher EmptyTue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 pm by altfritz

» Brevet Major. Henry Spalding of Rorke's Drift and Information for Columns
 Captain Upcher EmptyMon Sep 06, 2021 7:17 pm by 1879graves

» Lt. of Orderlies A. Hall AHC KIA Isandlwana
 Captain Upcher EmptySun Sep 05, 2021 11:22 pm by ADMIN

» Who had a rifle?
 Captain Upcher EmptySun Sep 05, 2021 3:49 pm by gardner1879

» Essential Research
 Captain Upcher EmptyFri Sep 03, 2021 3:52 pm by Danny1960

» 1:72 Diorama of Ulundi
 Captain Upcher EmptyThu Sep 02, 2021 6:11 pm by philzrx

» Your favourite line from Zulu or Zulu Dawn
 Captain Upcher EmptyThu Sep 02, 2021 3:58 pm by philzrx

» Best book(s) regarding British military handguns circa AZW
 Captain Upcher EmptyWed Sep 01, 2021 8:30 pm by Stand to

» Stolen Medals
 Captain Upcher EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 8:23 am by ADMIN

» 25B/2164 Pte Nolan Michael, Richard or Robert?
 Captain Upcher EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 10:34 pm by Bill8183

» 2077 Gunner Arthur Howard. R.A.
 Captain Upcher EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 am by ADMIN

» "Ex-Sergeant Major Craven" - a Curio.
 Captain Upcher EmptySun Aug 29, 2021 9:06 pm by ADMIN

» Chard/Bromhead revolvers
 Captain Upcher EmptySat Aug 28, 2021 1:06 pm by free1954

» martini - henry
 Captain Upcher EmptySat Aug 28, 2021 8:40 am by Peter35

» Company Sergeant Major F. W. Peake, Royal Engineers
 Captain Upcher EmptySat Aug 28, 2021 12:58 am by ADMIN

» Trump. J.Best. Lonsdale's Horse
 Captain Upcher EmptyFri Aug 27, 2021 11:23 am by ADMIN

» Off Topic Photograph Quiz
 Captain Upcher EmptyWed Aug 25, 2021 9:17 am by 24th

» Shenanigans in the Mess
 Captain Upcher EmptyWed Aug 25, 2021 5:35 am by WeekendWarrior

» Zulu War to Boer war. Those who served in both.
 Captain Upcher EmptyTue Aug 24, 2021 9:51 pm by gardner1879

» LONGHURST, SEAWARD 1st Dragoon Guards.
 Captain Upcher EmptySun Aug 22, 2021 10:40 pm by ADMIN

» Isandhlwana: Fate of Godwin Austin and Pope
 Captain Upcher EmptySun Aug 22, 2021 9:35 am by Julian Whybra

» Major T de la Haye Brotherton. Royal Engineers
 Captain Upcher EmptySat Aug 21, 2021 7:38 pm by ADMIN

» A small mystery- (Possibly) Capt. Mostyn's ring and personal tragedy
 Captain Upcher EmptyFri Aug 20, 2021 9:40 pm by WeekendWarrior

» Best after action reporting/reading (books or vintage accounts)
 Captain Upcher EmptyFri Aug 20, 2021 2:02 pm by moltke

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
The Anglo-Zulu war: Walking the battlefield of Ulundi
Top posters
90th
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
littlehand
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
ADMIN
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
1879graves
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
rusteze
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
John
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
Frank Allewell
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
1879graves
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
John Young
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
WeekendWarrior
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
rai
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Spudee
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Danny1960
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Kenny
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
ADMIN
 Captain Upcher Bar_left Captain Upcher Bar Captain Upcher Bar_right 
Most active topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Durnford was he capable.1
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.5
Durnford was he capable. 4
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
john taylor Woolfryes zulu Isandlwana james Prince Mounted Franklin Durnford drift carbineers Natal horse 24th williams spalding martini melvill Russell payne George Police henry smith harford
 

  Captain Upcher

Go down 
2 posters
AuthorMessage
Guest
Guest



 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptySat Jul 28, 2012 6:57 am

hello all

See the entrenchments made ​​at the Battle of Centane by the Captain Upcher!

Why does not LC mimics the Captain Upcher in this battle for Isandhlwana ?

He had no knowledge of the good tactic of the Captain Upcher versus a African charge ?

Cheers

Pascal
Back to top Go down
bill cainan



Posts : 225
Join date : 2011-09-19

 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 8:16 am

Pascal

As I understand it, at Centane, Rainforth's G Company, acting in a skirmishing role,drew the attackers onto the bulk of Upcher's force who were in "well-concealed" trenches. However, it was the "excellence" of the 24th's markmanship that ultimately won the day with the Gaikas/Galekas only getting to within 400 yards of the firing line.

I would suggest at Isandlwana, there was no need to draw the Zulus on ! Also, the ground at Isandlwana is essentially shale - almost impossible to dig trenches ! The firing line at Isandlwana performed as well as it had done at Centane, until it was ultimately outflanked. Trenches would have made no difference.

Bill
Back to top Go down
tasker224

tasker224

Posts : 2101
Join date : 2010-07-30
Age : 54
Location : North London

 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 8:25 am

The Gaikas/Galekas at Centane in 1878 were a different kettle of fish entirely to the Zulu at iSandlwana in 1879. Echo Bill's comments.
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 8:36 am

Hi Bill&Tasker

Who is the one who chose the place to build the camp of the third column, they could not provide a more appropriate location and copy what was done to Centane?

Underestimation of the determination of the Zulus, their number is incredible ...

I do not want to be rude, but rarely has an army, commanded so bad ...

Chelmsford should have been punished, back in civilian ect ...


Cheers

pascal
Back to top Go down
bill cainan



Posts : 225
Join date : 2011-09-19

 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 8:59 am

Tasker

Cheers

Pascal

I seem to be in the minority of people who do not condemn Chelmsford out of hand. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on his abilities as an army commander. I suspect with the benefit of hindsight, that we are all blessed with, Chelmsford may have approached the initial invasion somewhat differently !

Bill
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 11:42 am

He should have died of shame after Ulundi ... Salute
Back to top Go down
bill cainan



Posts : 225
Join date : 2011-09-19

 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 1:48 pm

Pascal

I thought he won Ulundi ? !!!

Bill
Back to top Go down
Guest
Guest



 Captain Upcher Empty
PostSubject: Re: Captain Upcher    Captain Upcher EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 1:53 pm

Another case grandiose as Isandhlwana and it was good for the pole ...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Back to top Go down
 
Captain Upcher
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: ZULU WAR BATTLES-
Jump to: