1/1st NNC officers

Does anyone have a list of all the officers of 1/1st NNC?  I'm interested in the ones who weren't at Isandhlwana.
Julian

Hi Julian

Hope this helps?

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Andy

I would beg to differ on Smyth

Graves
Me too re Smythe.
But...thanks very much Graves, this was partly what I was wanting...This is more of a compilation taken from Terry Sole's book and it's not authoratative. I was seeking more a provenance for the non-Isandhlwana lieutenants, you know the sort of thing, newspaper announcements or genral orders of when they were appointed and so on.
But thanks.

Thanks to all. I have been contacted privately with the info I was seeking.

Bit late but for what it's worth this is who I have in 1/1st NNC and/or 1st Battalion later. I'd be grateful if anyone can point out any errors or omissions. What's the issue with Smythe?

Comdt Montgomery Alexander N - CO. Ex 7th Foot. JP for P'Maritzburg. Scandal re pregnancy of local girl.
Capt  Clifton           FP
Capt  Dymes          H                 - Possible Isandlwana survivor
Capt  Hay                                  - OC of Coy merged into D & E Coys as he was detatched as Paymaster
Capt  Nourse          CRA              - OC D Coy, Isandlwana Survivor
Capt  Smythe         DM               - Isandlwana Survivor
Capt  Stafford        Walter H        - OC E Coy, Isandlwana Survivor
Lt  Black                Norman L      - D Coy. KIA Isandlwana. 33rd Lancashire RVC (Lt Lister in Dutton)
Lt  Erskine             Wallace B       - E Coy. Isandlwana Survivor
Lt  Hornby             Arthur            - Brother of George
Lt  Hornby             George           - Friend of D'Ombrain
Lt  Matthews
Lt  Nurden
Lt  D'Ombrain         Robert           - Friend of Comdt Montgomery. Committed suicide 8.4.79
Lt  Robinson           GL
Lt  Wales                MG
Civ.Surg Ryley        John R
Sgt Maj Sharp         T                  - D Coy. Isandlwana Survivor (later Lt & Adj)
Provo Sgt Jackson   T                  - Also in Native Levies
Sgt    Monkman      H
Cpl Fyfe                                      - See QMS Fyfe 2/1st NNC?
Cpl Wood                                    - Assisted Civ.Surg Ryley
Chief  Ncwadi kaSikali                  - Son of Sikali who died before Christmas 1878
Chief  Mycangca
Chief  Siyingele kaZihlondlo
Men  Amangwane x 300
"  Amagwe x 300
"  Amahlubi x 200
"  amaKabela x 100

Regards Phil

Herbie and Graves
Thank you both - very useful. You should perhaps look at each other's lists.

Herbie wrote:

What's the issue with Smythe?

Hi Phil

Take a look at the following and the list I have posted from Terry Sole's list.

https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t6659-captain-david-murray-smythe-1st-batt-1st-regt-natal-native-contingent?highlight=smythe

Andy

Graves
Yes, I think there is general agreement that Sole made an error in his remark against Smythe's name.

I noticed there was a typo in my list and Cpl Wood had dropped out so I've corrected that.

By the way some of my info came from an interesting thesis I found on the internet. I'll post a link to it separately as it covers the whole NNC.

I don't have Terry Sole's book but will look out for it.

Regards

And they all miss out on dear old Edmund!

Frank
One wonders how many others...

Whats really getting to me Julian is that he does not appear on any records.
And yet we have his statement, that on its own of course could mean its a fraud.
Except.
That one casual mention, almost in passing, and the fact he has a medal.
I really do start to think it would be easier to complete Rubbicks Cube blindfolded with no arms than solve iSandlwana mysteries.

Actually Frank...I think I'm about to present you with another mystery...I have to go out shortly for a couple of hours. I'll probably e-mail you when I get back or sooner if I can.