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PostSubject: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 1:21 pm

Afternoon,

Just a quick question for the more knowledgeable of the forum members, what would you consider a "must have" from the War Office documents at the TNA? I have apart from pay-lists etc copied the following so far:

WO 32/7706 Isandlwana Report 14 pages

WO 32/7726 Court of Inquiry 150 pages

WO 32/7729 Clyde Sinking 35 pages (with very smudged first three pages, due to the paper)?

WO 32/7737 Chard Report Rorke's Drift

Anything else ?

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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 3:00 pm

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The original Chard report with his original hand drawn maps is in the Royal Archives at Windsor. I do have a full copy that Im happy to send e mail, so scratch that of your list.
The COE is available on line in full so again easy access. From memory the North East Medals site has quite a lot of info as does this forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 3:56 pm

Frank Allewell wrote:
Bill
The original Chard report with his original hand drawn maps is in the Royal Archives at Windsor. I do have a full copy that Im happy to send e mail, so scratch that of your list.
The COE is available on line in full so again easy access. From memory the North East Medals site has quite a lot of info as does this forum.

Good afternoon Frank,

Thanks, that would be fantastic. I take it you are referring to the much longer report Chard wrote personally for Queen Victoria? That would be a great help, it's always good to have copies of original documents. I have no idea how to gain access to that particular archive as of yet.

From my list above I have copied from National Archives Chard's official report to Horseguards (it would be great to have the other one) plus the COE/COI (they're the only four I've checked so far). Are there any other documents you would suggest "yep you really need to read/copy that one"?

Many thanks again,

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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyMon Aug 30, 2021 6:32 pm

Bill there are quite a number, a lot from the Royal Archives. The late Rusteze was the expert at Windsor so I cant help you at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 7:09 am

Bill I have uploaded by We Transfer. Its a pretty big file so Yahoo wont look at it. Click on the link.

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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 12:52 pm

Link appears to be missing Frank?
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 1:01 pm

Strange its onthe copy sent at the top in blue. Its a We Transfer link, Ive resent it.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 1:17 pm

Hmm sorry Frank, can't see anything that resembles a link. Are you saying the top of your message or page? Never used that Transfer before so maybe looking in the wrong place.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 1:22 pm

Bill I have sent a copy of the link by pm.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 1:27 pm

I see its been downloaded so assume you have it all Bill.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyTue Aug 31, 2021 1:28 pm

Cheers Frank, link worked fine in pm but not on the main board. Perhaps my settings are wrong?

Much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyWed Sep 01, 2021 7:11 pm

I have tried to copy all those reports as stated by bill8183 but I get a message saying the record has not been digitalised yet…any way around it or am I doing something wrong..
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyThu Sep 02, 2021 9:10 am

The hard yards Im afraid Danny. Like a lot of the forum members Ive spent many many hours trudging back and forward through archives around the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyThu Sep 02, 2021 4:02 pm

Hi frank, I completely understand that research isn’t easy, what I was saying is that the op had copied his listed documents, when I tried to do the same on the national archives the message I got was that the documents were not yet digitalised so we’re not available I was just trying to establish how the op got copies of the documents
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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyFri Sep 03, 2021 8:00 am

Danny,

In answer to your question, as stated by Frank above I had to book a visit to The National Archives and photograph them personally. What I was asking above was what other documents would the forum members deem essential to copy from there. I have a whole list of references to the Zulu War on a PDF and was wondering what else others had.

Frank again, thanks for the link, I didn't realise you sent it via normal email, I'd thought it was sent in the forum message somewhere. It was in my spam folder!

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PostSubject: Re: Essential Research   Essential Research EmptyFri Sep 03, 2021 3:52 pm

Oh ok I see now, I thought you could order them online, I did notice that they offer a copying service with postage it was about £8.40 per item…
Thanks for the reply
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