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PostSubject: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 7:20 am

Hi All, thanks for the add. I am currently doing my Doctorate on the Defensible Architecture of KwaZulu Natal 1838-1914 which obviously covers the Anglo-Zulu war. If anyone has Photos, Plans or any other information you think might be of interest I would be very grateful for the assistance. One of my mentors is well known Prof. John Laband and I obviously have all his publications. Bill
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 10:08 am

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You should look at Field guide to the War in Zululand and the Defence of Natal 1879 by John Laband and Paul Thompson (Univ. of Natal, PMB, 1983). It is a veritable 'dictionary' of plans, fortifications, statistics, sketches and maps and information, all by sector.
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 11:40 am

Vonwil,

Lieutenant Reginald Da Costa Porter, Royal Engineers, produced a professional paper on the fortifications and laagers of the Zulu War, which was produced in 1880 by the Royal Engineers Institute, that might be worth consulting.

I have a number of contemporary photographs of some of the well-known fortifications from 1879, many of which have been reproduced in various modern works.  I don’t know if they would help?

The Narrative of Field Operations… obviously contains a number of diagrams.

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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 2:36 pm

Hi Julian, thanks - I have this as my Professor is John Laband :-)

Hi John - Thanks for that lead - I will definitely follow up on Lt. Porter's paper. Your photographs would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 2:40 pm

Vonwil
There are also five chapters in Kingdom and Colony at War (Laband and Thompson) on defence arrangements for particular towns/areas - I suspect you may have this too.
May I ask where you are studying for your doctorate?
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vonwil
A last thought - there are three or four contemporary 'chapters' in The Zulu War and the Colony of Natal ed. by Chadwick and Hobson (Mandini, 1979) which might be of interest.
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 5:22 pm

Vonwil,

Here’s a start:
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Fort Pearson, from the upper cemetery.
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Fort Pearson, with a Line Infantry band.
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Fortified position, Helpmekaar.
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Fort Jones, Dundee, often confused with Helpmekaar, due to the reuse of the sheds.
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Rorke’s Drift, fortified.
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The loopholed & fortified storehouse, Rorke’s Drift.
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Fort Melvill, also known as Fort Revenge, Mzinyathi River, Rorke’s Drift.
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Part of the military laager, Newcastle.

All photographs above are part of the John Young Collection.

I hope they are of some use?

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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyTue Jul 18, 2023 8:18 pm

Ian Knights 2005 Osprey book
British Fortifications in Zululand ISBN 1841768294 is good

There is also a lot of information about the coastal forts in Royal Engineer Major Warren Wynne's diary
'A Widow-Making War' edited by Howard Whithouse. ISBN 0952148803

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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyWed Jul 19, 2023 1:41 pm

Historic Natal and Zululand, H. C. Lugg, also has many snippets of information regarding the defence and fortifications of Natal that you can't find anywhere else.
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyWed Jul 19, 2023 2:38 pm

Vonwil,

Some more examples:
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Fort Pearson, photographed from the Zulu bank.
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Fort Pearson, from the D’Urban Road.
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Fort Tenedos.
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Fort Chelmsford.
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Fort Chelmsford.
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Thring’s Post.
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The barricade at D’Urban harbour.

Again all photographs from the John Young Collection.

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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 6:02 pm

Julian Whybra wrote:
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There are also five chapters in Kingdom and Colony at War (Laband and Thompson) on defence arrangements for particular towns/areas - I suspect you may have this too.
May I ask where you are studying for your doctorate?

I am in Kwazulu Natal and am doing it through UKZN.
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyMon Aug 07, 2023 6:12 pm

Thanks so much guys (Sorry - I'm a Facebook addict, this form of communication is strange to me.) I am going up to Hluhluwe on Wednesday - hope to visit severals forts on the way :-)
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Have a good trip!
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Hi JY
I wish the Forts looked like they were in 1879 ! , some of them are damned near impossible to make out !! .
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyFri Aug 18, 2023 8:09 am

gardner1879 wrote:
Ian Knights 2005 Osprey book
British Fortifications in Zululand ISBN 1841768294 is good

There is also a lot of information about the coastal forts in Royal Engineer Major Warren Wynne's diary
'A Widow-Making War' edited by Howard Whithouse. ISBN 0952148803

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Thanks Kate I just ordered both of them
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Hi Aussie Inkosi
I can't believe you didn't have those 2 books !? Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyMon Aug 21, 2023 6:51 am

Hi Aussie, I have Ian Knights one - exactly the sort of thing I will be doing! But thanks for reminding me about Warren Wynne's one. My fort hunting with a grumpy wife in tow was a disaster - I need mates who don't mind roughing it a bit - next time :-)
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Hi Vonwil ( Bill )
Whereabouts do you live in SA ? , a mate of mine who's also a guide knows the locations of many of the Forts we've been to from the Zulu War .
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PostSubject: Re: Forts Of the Zulu War   Forts Of the Zulu War EmptyMon Aug 21, 2023 5:53 pm

Hi 90th - I live in Kloof outside Durban. Thanks - any help will be welcome! Bill
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Hi Vonwil ( Bill )
Have sent you a pm ( private message )
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