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PostSubject: William Ryan / alias Regan   William Ryan / alias Regan EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 7:45 pm

can anyone help me find a deserter from the 60th rifles whilst in South Africa 1856, An Irishman William ( Bill) Ryan alias Regan who later Murdered his Griqua wife on 3rd November 1879.
Captured 1874 by the Native Contingent under Commandant Welsh but escaped whilst in captivity.
Any help in finding this nasty gent who Murdered My Wife's GG Grandmother would be much appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: William Ryan / alias Regan   William Ryan / alias Regan EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 10:06 pm

Murray
If he deserted in 1856 he may have been involved in the earlier Frontier Wars and looking at the medal rolls for this period there are two Ryan's in the 60th but neither are William.
1/ Michael Ryan 2791 1850-53
2/Richard Ryan 1850-53

There is a William Ryall in the 75th Regiment, sometimes names are mispelt in medal rolls
There are two Michael Ryan's attached to the Cape Mounted Riflemen.
1/Michael Ryan 2261 saw his entire war service with the 6th where his number was 3083
2/ Michael Ryan 2316 saw his entire war service with the 60th

Will keep digging
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PostSubject: Re: William Ryan / alias Regan   William Ryan / alias Regan EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 10:22 pm

Murray did he desert in 1856 and are you sure he was in the 60th?

This William Ryan was in an Irish Regiment and ended up in SA in 1871

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In the  Englishman's Overland Mail - Wednesday 21 January 1880 a Private W Ryan 4 -60th was awarded his silver long service good conduct medal. Not likely to be him based on your description of him

It is a common name but here are three possible leads for you
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There is N/T of a William Ryan in the SAGS medal roll.
Do you have any more details of the 'Native Contingent' that Commandant Welsh was in charge of bearing in mind the Natal Native Contingent were only raised in November 1878.
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PostSubject: Re: William Ryan / alias Regan   William Ryan / alias Regan EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 11:37 pm

May be something or nothing
Taken from an article titled 'The Transvaal'

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PostSubject: Re: William Ryan / alias Regan   William Ryan / alias Regan EmptyTue Aug 16, 2022 11:46 pm

gardner1879 wrote:
May be something or nothing
Taken from an article titled 'The Transvaal'

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Thanks Kate,
I also found that, and much more for Ryan living in East Griqualand.
The informer said his name was Regan, I reckon that is his army name.

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PostSubject: Re: William Ryan / alias Regan   William Ryan / alias Regan EmptyThu Sep 29, 2022 12:53 pm

I know its a common name but could this be your chap Murray after returning to England?
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