Francis R A Newton

Subject: Francis R A Newton Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:43 pm

Hi all

Natal Witness BMDs 1878:

Francis E A Newton died 10 Aug 1878 whilst bathing at Larnaca, Cyprus, Midshipman HMS Raleigh, son of W J Newton, late Capt 3rd Buffs.

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:58 pm

Eddie,

Could you please explain the relevance to Zulu War?

Thanks,

JY

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:16 pm

Hi John

3rd Buffs were in the Zulu war, weren't they?

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:58 pm

Eddie,

Yes, the 2nd Battalion, 3rd (East Kent) Regiment “The Buffs” did indeed serve in the Zulu War of 1879.

That said Captain William James Newton resigned his commission in 1862, so again I ask what is the relevance to the Zulu War of 1879?

JY

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:07 am

John

That is why I posted this, I knew they were in the Zulu war 1879, I posted it to asserting if he served in the war, and I have the answer now, thank you.
Why do you always have to come across as confrontational, what was wrong with posting what I have John?

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:17 am

Eddie,

Might I suggest that you look to yourself, before making such accusations…

If you had read your original post it was already determined that in August 1878 Captain Walter James Newton was no longer a serving officer, hence the expression: W J Newton, late Capt 3rd Buffs. Therefore it bears no relevance to a campaign that commenced in January 1879.

JY

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:34 pm

Hi John

With respect, the Capt 3rd Buffs could have died during 1878, in the war, hence the late Capt.
Thank you for you replies

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:56 pm

Eddie,

Then he would have the late Captain W. J. Newton, whereas late Captain in the 3rd Buffs infers to me a position formally held. Once again you appear to be misconstruing Victorian parlance. In much the same way as John Dartnell was often referred to as being late 86th Regiment, when he was very much alive.

I had no idea that British forces were engaged in operations against the AmaZulu nation in August 1878, please enlighten me with your source for your last reply?

I assure you in the sixty-odd years I have had an interest in Zulu War of 1879 I have never heard of this earlier campaign against the AmaZulu.

Your initial post is - in my considered opinion - off topic!

JY

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:29 pm

Thank you John.

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:14 pm

Just for the sake of clarification, Captain W. J. Newton, formerly of the 3rd (East Kent) Regiment “The Buffs” died on 24th May 1886.

His military service - which did not include the Zulu War - is recorded on his former school’s register: https://www.winchestercollegeatwar.com

JY

Subject: Re: Francis R A Newton Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:44 pm

Thank you John

» Frank Newton, C.M.G.