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PostSubject: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyThu May 10, 2012 9:41 am

Hi all

What exactly was the arming of Durnford at Isandhlwana ?

For example he had a sword ?

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Revolver and hunting knife, his sword was in his waggon and is now on display at the RE museum.




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Hi Db15,

One of the Zulu account's I think Mehlogozulu's , recounts Durnford, in the last stand, swinging his sword at his attackers with gusto and the blade flashing in the afternoon sun.
So, ....... if that is correct, the sword could not have been in his wagon ?. Besides which, all the wagons were looted.

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyThu May 10, 2012 8:24 pm

Mehlogozulu also mentioned regarding Durnford that he would try and get the sabra back. But have seen nothing since to say it was return.
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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 6:01 am

Hello and thank you to all three

Oh, what misery, even with the primary sources we are sure of nothing ...

So for more important issues, you can imagine the errors made by historians and peddled for 133 years !

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 6:57 am

There was a statement, possibly by Davies that he saw Durnford on/near the firing line with his servant alongside who was carrying the sword.
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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:04 am

Barry were's the Zulu report ?

CTSG who says that it was Durnfords sword ?

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Sword and belt taken from waggon left on the field of isandlwana. Regognized as belonging to the
late Col. Durnford Re.The scabbered is missing. The sword is the one worn by Col. Durnford before
he bacme a F.O.

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 9:14 am

Thank you again, luckily I finally 3 figures representing Durnford, two with swords (one on foot with sword in right hand ), and one without, but none possesses dagger ...

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 10:01 am

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CTSG who says that it was Durnfords sword

I'm assuming that CTSG suggested that because the Zulu inquestion was discussing Durnford when it was mentioned.
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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 12:22 pm

Oh, what misery, even with the primary sources we are sure of nothing ...

So for more important issues, you can imagine the errors made by historians and peddled for 133 years !

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:12 pm

Pascal

Durnford used his knife to clear the carbines of his men when they jammed, so he was carrying one of those.



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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:37 pm

DB. He carried a pocket knife. Not a Dagger!!
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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:43 pm

Thank you for helping me to both

So this knife was not visible, it was not in holsters on his belt, when he used it not, is not it!

In fact it was a pocket knife, not a weapon,, is not it!

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:44 pm

He carried both.

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:50 pm

You must be sure of that, I do not misrepresent my 3 Durnford.
figurines.

His dagger is sometimes represented on the back of his left hip in his cases ... It is that?

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:55 pm

Durnford descibes his apperence in a letter to his family as this

"Boots, Spurs dark cord breaches, serge patrol jacket, broad beltover the shoulders and one round
the waist, to the former attached a revolver and to the latter a hunting knife and ammuntion pouch. A
wide-awake soft felt hat with wide brim, one side turned up and a crimson turnban wound around the hat."


His pocket knife was in his mess jacket pocket, out of sight.



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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 7:59 pm

So was his dagger on the left front of his belt Salute

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptyFri May 11, 2012 9:49 pm

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Durnford descibes his apperence in a letter to his family as this
"Boots, Spurs dark cord breaches, serge patrol jacket, broad beltover the shoulders and one round
the waist, to the former attached a revolver and to the latter a hunting knife and ammuntion pouch. A
wide-awake soft felt hat with wide brim, one side turned up and a crimson turnban wound around the hat."
His pocket knife was in his mess jacket pocket, out of sight.
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Ok where's the Dagger. If your referring to his hunting knife. It's a totally different weapon all together.

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So he had his mess jacket on at Isandlwana.



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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptySat May 12, 2012 5:47 am

But no, if he used it, he was in on it ... But where?

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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptySat May 12, 2012 8:49 am

He would have worn it on the side of his good arm.
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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptySat May 12, 2012 9:51 am

His pocket knife was in his mess waist coat pocket, Norris-Newman saw Shepstone remove it from there.
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PostSubject: Re: A sword for Durnford ?   A sword for Durnford ? EmptySat May 12, 2012 10:01 am

And his dagger is on the left front of his belt ?

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