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PostSubject: Gunner rank within the Royal Engineers ????   Gunner rank within the Royal Engineers ???? EmptyWed May 20, 2020 8:38 pm

Hi all

Question for you all.

On the D.R. Forsyth Medal roll, there are five Royal Engineers listed in the 5th Company as Corporals unpaid with the rank of Gunner.

What is the rank of Gunner within the Royal Engineers?

Andy
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Andy,

I just wonder if they were trained up as gun crew, the 88th in 9th Cape Frontier War provided infantrymen to be trained as gun crew, likewise for the 80th in the Zulu War.

JY
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner rank within the Royal Engineers ????   Gunner rank within the Royal Engineers ???? EmptyWed May 20, 2020 10:37 pm

Andy,

I checked the South Africa Medal Roll for 5th Company Royal Engineers.  The five men that Forsyth listed as Gunners are shown under the heading of Sapper.  J. Hooper 10528 has the notation "unpaid L. Corporal" above the regimental number.  The other four have similar notations.  I think Forsyth misread the notation.

I can copy the pages from the medal roll for you, if you like, and email them to you.

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Hi both

Many thanks for your input on this question.

It was a question posed by a member of the The Victorian Military Society Facebook page.

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