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PostSubject: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 10:35 am

Hi All,the
As promised list of graves and memorials all are available on the graves at eggsa site [South African War Graves] mostly in the KwaZulu Natal area or on the Findagrave site.
Corp C Saviel ASC Old Cem Newcastle. grave photo
John Arlington Utrecht Old Cem grave photo, appears on ZW memorial but why??
Bennett either 1/13 or 80th Utrecht old cem, grave photo.
Henry White RN HMS Boadicea Seaforth Old Burying Ground Simonstown Cape Town,grave and on RN Memorial.
Krooman Tom Peters HMS Boadicea d.1881 Seaforth Old Simonstown RN Memorial.
Pvt John Wright RMLI HMS Boadicea d.1882 Seaforth Old Simonstown RN Memorial.
Krooman George Moses HMS Boadicea d.1882 Seaforth Old Simonstown RN Memorial.
Stoker C Manners RN HMS Himalaya d.1888 [Miners on Medal Roll] Seaforth Old Simonstown RN Memorial.
Krooman John Lewis HMS Boadicea d.1881 Seafoth Old Simonstown on RN Memorial.
Seaman Jesse Horrell HMS Boadicea d.1882 Seaforth Old Simonstown on RN Memorial.
Krooman Ben Sancho HMS Boadicea d.1882 Seaforth Old Smonstown on RN Memorial.
Sapper F Howarth R E d.1879 Seaforth Old Simonstown Grave.
Private G Barnard 3/60 d.1880 Fort Napier Cem Pietermaritzburg, Grave.
Maj-Gen Banastre p Lloyd ex Indian Staff Corps d. 1882, Fort Napier PMB Grave [on medal roll].
Pvt c Shore 58th d.1880 old cem Newcastle, Grave.
Pvt Manual 58th d.1880 Old Cem Newcastle, Grave.
Corp w Driemier N M Police d.1883 Old Cem Newcastle, Grave.
Maria Wife of Robert Taylor 1/24 and child Florence d.1876 Maitland Cem Cape Town, Grave Taylor KIA Isandlwana.
Mary Wife of Sgt M Hornibrook 1/24 and child Thomas d.1876 Maitland Cem Cape Town Grave, Hornibrook KIA Isandlwana.
Children Patrick d.1875 + James d.1876 of Richard Maloney 1/24 Maitland Cem Cape Town Grave, [3 Maloney on Medal Roll but no R.].
Lieberge Pierre Late Lonsdale Horse d.1879 Maitland Cem Cape Town, Grave.
Pvt P McCaffrey 58th d.1885 Maitland Cem Cape Town Grave.
Pvt Frank Nelson ASC d.1880 Church St Cem Pretoria, Grave.
Bandsman G Wood 2/21 d.1881 St Luke's Churchyard Howick, Grave.
Pvt R Penfold 1 KDGds d.1880 Old Cem Heidelberg Grave.
Pvt L Bradbury 1KDGds d.1880 Old Cem Heidelberg Grave.
British Occupation Memorial 1879-80 Main Cem Wakkerstroom.
Pvt D Gallagher 58th d.1880 Old Cem Standerton, Greve.
Pvt T Farrell 94th d.1880 Old Cem Lydenburg Grave.
Bandmaster B Smith 94th d.1880 Old Cem Lydenburg Grave.
Pvt  McNamara 94th d.1880 Old Cem Lydenburg Grave.
Pvt P Kelly 88th d.1878 Anglian Church Cem Komgha, Grave.
Driver L Wilson R E d.1879 Old Cem Newcastle, Grave.
Pvt T Clayton 2/24 d.1879 Helpmakaar Military Cem.
Trooper C Langhnan NMPolice d.1879 Ladysmith Town Cem Grave.
Pvt g Ellis A Hosp C d.1882 Ladysmith Twn Cem, Grave.
Captain W T Gubbins 3rd NNC d.1879 Ladysmith Town Cem, Grave.
Trooper G H Banger NMPolice KIA Isandlwana on family grave West St Cem Durban.
Dep Commissary S T Phillimore A Commissary Dept D.1879 Old Cem Utrecht, Grave.
Pvt Bond 80th d.1879 Old Cem Lydenburg, Grave.
Pvt J Croombs 94th d.1879 Old Cem Lydenburg. Grave.
Possible David W Doig d.1879 Ladysmith Town Cem, Grave, could be D Doig N M Police??
Possible Trooper A H Evans N M Police b.1847 d.1899 Umhali Cem Grave [A J Evans on Medal Roll N M Police ??].
Capt A R Raitt RN Volunteer Pulliene's Rangers b.c 1839 KIA 1878 KingWilliamsTown Main Cem, Grave.
Commandant Wilhelm Von Linsingen d.1880 KWT Main Cem, Grave.
Ernst Von Linsingen d.1880 KWT Main Cem Grave.
Capt E H MacNaghton Frontier Lt Horse KIA 1878, KWT Main Cem Grave.
Drum Major James Kellly 91st d.at sea on passage from Natal to Ceylon 1885, on Family Memorial Overleigh Old Cem Chester.
Questions
Major Joseph H Fawcett 91st d. Cape Town 1882 St Saviour's C/Yard Claremont Cape Town Grave. [Was he around for the Zulu War not mentioned anywhere??].
One for Petty officer Tom,
Lt Henry B Wynyard RN HMS Boadicea b.c 1850 d.8 Nov 1880, Seaforth Old Cem Simonstown Cape Town, Grave, [states serves on Boadicea 1878-1882 commission, he is also on the Boadicea Memorial at Clayhall Cem Gosport Hampshire. question is did he serve Zulu War not on medal roll].
Many More to follow.
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 1:40 pm

Outstanding Rai. Thank you Salute

I think we might need more than a couple of months next year  Gary Shocked
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PostSubject: eggsa site Grave memorials    eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 1:59 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA Kate ,
I've been to many of those cemeteries , unfortunately at the Old Utrecht cemetery it's mission impossible to read many , if any of the Headstones . In regards to the others I've come across a few of the Chaps listed by Rai , the Cemeteries are certainly on the list , especially the one's at Pietermaritzburg , Newcastle and Utrecht if you haven't been ? , then again Brandyne will also be keen so we'll do them all ! agree Joker
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 2:52 pm

Rai,

On 7 Jun 1879 the Admiralty appointed Lieutenant Henry Bingham Chesshyre Wynyard to HMS Boadicea as an “additional”.  On 13 Jun 1879 Wynyard sailed from Plymouth aboard the Union Steamship Roman for the Cape of Good Hope.  HMS Boadicea arrived at Simon’s Bay with the body of the Prince Imperial on 15 Jun 1879.  “Boadicea” would remain there for the remainder of the Zulu War.  On 7 Jul 1879 Wynyard arrived at Simon’s Bay and was transferred to HMS Boadicea.  According to the Medical Journal for HMS Boadicea Wynyard was discharged to Royal Naval Hospital, Simon’s Bay the following day.  His name is not on the Medal Roll for HMS Boadicea due to the fact that he did not serve aboard that ship during the period for which the crew was entitled to the South Africa Medal (15 March 1879 to 12 June 1879).  Wynyard’s name does appear on the Boadicea Memorial at Clayhall Cemetery commemorating all those who died during the ship’s commission on the Cape of Good Hope and West Coast of Africa Station between 1878 and 1882, and not just those who died during the Zulu War.

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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Nov 24, 2021 9:38 pm

Hi All
A few more from the South Africa Graves site and Findagrave site.
Thomas Smith d.16 june 1880, could be T Smith Buffalo B Gd Talana Hill Cem Dundee erected by his brother Peter also BBG, Tom was 62 when he died.
John Little d.11 may 1881 commercial Rd Cem PMBurg, could be D Little Natal Carbs ZW.
E S Austin d.7 sept 1910, Newcastle Old Cem, fcould be E S Austin Newcastle Scouts 1879.
Fred S Berning no death date Commercial Rd Cem PMBurg, could be Berning New Mtd Rifles.
Newcastle War Mem, Newcastle Old Cem, covers 1877 to 1881.
East London City Hall War Mem, includes Robert Krohn, and J Broderick NNC kia Isandlwana.
Q/m Sgt Alfred Hugh Farr 2nd NNC kia Isaandlwana, Mem Kingwilliamstown Main Cem.
Capt James Faunce Lonsdale NNC Kia Isandlwana, there are two memorials to this name ours is on the older family grave you can just make out his name on it, Kingwilliamstown Main Cem.
Corporal Michael Lally NMPolice Kia Isandlwana, Mem Kingwilliamstown Main Cem.
Q/M John Richard McCormack NNC Kia Isandlwana, Mem Kingwilliamstown Cem.
Lt Henry John Hardy Rifle Brigade d.4 oct 1879 Ladysmith Main Cem.
Captain Alexander L McDonald Army Pay Dept, D.15 Nov 1879 at Fort Amiel b Newcastle Old Cem.
Driver L Wilson R.E. d.5 may 1879 Newcastle Old Cem.
Johann Heinrich August Filter d.2 june 1879 aged17, Lutheran Church Luneberg.
Joseph Louis Jan 1879 [description and date difficult to read] Commercial Rd Cem PMBurg. ZW Unknown??
Pvt Hughes 2/24 d.23 Aug 1879 Fort Napier Cem.
Mabel Gwendolen daughter of Capt J.F.James 1/13 d.19 may 1879 aged 2 Fort Napier Cem PMBurg.
James Andrews d.march 1879, St Lukes Churchyard Howick, ZW??.
Civil Surgeon A A Woods d. 1879 at Herwen, Stanger Old Cem.
Lt John Thirkill 88th d.1879 at Herwen, Stanger Old Cem.
Lt C eE Mason 3rd Buffs dd.1879 at Herwen Stanger Old Cem.
Trooper J W Munn Isipingo Mtd Rifles d.1879 at Herwen Stanger Old Cem, these last four are all replacement gravestones dated for the 2nd Boer War 1899-1902.
Pvt O'Brien Royal Marines HMS Boadicea, d.4 July 1879 Stanger old Cem.
A/s J Reid RN HMS Boadicea d.4 July 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Higgins 88th d.4 july 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt T Hughes 3/60 d.4 july 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Holden 2/3 Buffs d. 4 july 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Rogers [T Rodgers] 91st d.4 July 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt F Butler 91st d.4 july 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Mullins 91st d.4 July 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Sloane d.4 July 1879 Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Burns 3/60 d.4 july 1879. Stanger Old Cem.
Pvt J Russell 6th Brig R Art d.4 july 1879. stanger Old Cem. These last ten date of deaths do not ring true??
Staff Sgt Alfred Henry Wheeler 4th d.17 Oct 1879 drowned at Newcastle on family grave with three children Maitland Cem Cape Town.
W J Wadshams A Hosp Corps d.19 Dec 1879 St John's Cem Pinetown.
I W James son of Corp James R.E. d.1 dec 1879 aged 3 St John's Pinetown.
Sgt E A Sorcartz 30th Co R.E. d 12 Dec 1879 St John's Pinetown.
I O'Brien ASC d.Nov 1879 St John's Pinetown.
Thats all folks for the present but more to come mainly First Boer War but also served in the Zulu War.
Rai KLH.
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyFri Nov 26, 2021 4:24 pm

Great stuff thanks Rai.
News here on the wireless today Gary a new strain of covid and its in SA again.
I think perhaps we will never get back over there. Rolling Eyes
My thoughts and prayers to all those out there. Stay safe.
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PostSubject: eggsa site Grave memorials    eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptySat Nov 27, 2021 3:00 am

Hi Kate
Yes I first heard of it early last week , several countries have closed their borders to at least 7 African Countries , and SA is one of them , we've closed our borders today for non Australian residents coming from SA . Hopefully by the time July / August arrives things are much improved , but I doubt it , considering this Omicron strain is reported to be 500% more Virulent than Delta ! .
One can only hope that this Strain may blow over quickly .
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptySat Nov 27, 2021 6:45 am

I hope things improve it seems as we take one step forward, then two back
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptySun Nov 28, 2021 4:41 pm

A few more from the EGGSA Site (apologies if I've duplicated any from Rai's posts):

Tpr Charles Sparks NMP, survivor of Isandlwana, grave at Stellawood Cemetery, Durban
Tpr Donald Moodie NMR, survivor of Isandlwana, grave at Newcastle Old Cemetery
Sgt John Wm Arrowsmith Walsh NMR, survivor of Isandlwana, grave at Newcastle Old Cemetery
Tpr William Tarboton NC, survivor of Isandlwana, grave at St. Mary's church, Byrne
Tpr William Walwyn Barker NC, survivor of Isandlwana, grave at Umzinto
Robert John Hall (civilian), survivor of Isandlwana, grave at Ladysmith Cemetery
James A Brickhill (civilian), survivor of Isandlwana, mentioned on wife Jane's grave at Dundee Cemetery
Conductor Louis Phillippe DuBois, KIA Isandlwana, original headstone at Talana Cemetery
Capt S. Harber 1st Btn 3rd Regt NNC, grave at Mpumalanga

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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyTue Nov 30, 2021 6:44 am

Hi All
Some more EGGSA Memorials mainly First Boer War 1881, but many of these served in the Zulu War.
Middleberg War Memorial, Old Cem Middleberg. A bit strnge this one as it has no date?, it lists which looks like Boer Names but at the bottom are three Colonials.
Royal Scots Fusiliers Memorial 1880-81, old Cem Pretoria. 2/21st many served Zulu War.
Bt Lt-Col Arthur Hazelrigg 2/21st d.16 july 1880. b. Church St West Cem Pretoria.
John Charmbury Pretoria Carbineers d o w 22 Feb 1881 b.church st west cem Pretoria.
3/60 memorial Fort Amiel Cem Newcastle. this has been badly vandalised.
Natal Mtd Police Memorial of those buried in Commericial Rd Cem PMBurg. includes, W J Clarke, F A Campbell, W W Fry.
Potchefstroom Garrison 1880-81, Potchefstroom old Cem.
Mount Prospect 1880-81 memorials, many regimental, and individual graves here. Moumt Prospect.
O'Neils Homestead, There were graves to the 3/60 here but now seemed to have been vanderlised and destroyed. O'Neils Cottage Site.
William Wetherall Woodhouse drowned crossing the Karkloof River 2 Feb 1881, Commercial Rd Cem PMBurg.
William P Baines drowned crossing the Incaadu River 29 Jan 1881, b.Newcastle old Cem Newcastle.
Newcastle War Memorail, covers 1877 t0 1881. Hardwick St Cem Newcastle.
Natal Mounted Rifles war Memorial lists for Zulu War Trooper Dacomb and Trooper W W Green , Regimental HQ Durban. Green was NNC cannot work out if these served or died in the war.
Anderson d.Feb 1879 Ladysmith Main Cem badly eroded grave age 38.
Two Dinkelmann graves, Beginsel Farm Cem Newcastle. Probably Dinkelmann Newcastle Mtd Rifles.
Lt Col A N Montgomery Welch Regt, NNC d.22 sept 1879 by a snake bite. Mandeni, Mtunzini District.
Thomas Casey 88/94 b.Maitland Cem Cape Town. has irish regt badge on grave very hard to read.
Sgt William Wright late Argyllshire regiment hard to see dates no w Wright on medal roll of the 91st but the are three Wright's. Butterworth Main Cem Eastern Cape.
More to Follow.
Rai KLH
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyTue Nov 30, 2021 7:18 am

Tim Needham

I have always wanted to know the burial locations of the Symons brothers they served in the Natal Carbineers and was part of Dartnell force in Mangeni. Of the little research I done they lived on the outskirts of Pietermaritzburg

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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyTue Nov 30, 2021 8:32 pm

Aussie,

I'm afraid I don't have any further info on the Symons brothers, other than what's in Terry Sole's For God, Queen & Colony i.e. just their first names, sorry.

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PostSubject: eggsa site Grave memorials    eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Dec 01, 2021 12:03 am

Hi Rai
The Montgomery you've listed is always confusing , you've listed A.N.( Alexander Nixon ) Montgomery who was in the AZW , it wasn't him who was bitten by the Mamba near Fort Tenedos in 1883 , this was Nathanial Montgomery , not sure if Nathanial has another Christian name ? , who as far as I'm aware wasn't involved in the Zulu War , I've been to A.N.Montgomery's old residence which was Ismont Farm , the family graves including his are on a hill overlooking his / and the current day owners property .
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PostSubject: eggsa site Grave memorials    eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Dec 01, 2021 2:50 am

Hi Aussie Inkosi ( Inks ) I also are unaware where the Symons Bros are buried , I know Fred died in 1917 but no other details , don't know when John died . Wonder if The Major knows where they are buried ? .
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyFri Dec 03, 2021 10:12 am

Hi All,
Within Maitland Cem Cape Town, is a memorial to the children and adults who died between 1841-1915 and were originally buried at Fort Knokke and reinterred at Maitland.
Some of these whos gravestones still exist i have already listed under maitland Cemetery.
However some family names of the 24th jump out at me, and could be family,
C Bromhead, AR Cambrey, WN Cambrey, WP Newberry, SA Sylvester, M and T Hornibrook.
It also lists men from the R ART, 4th Lancs, 60th, 2/21, ASC, 24th, 58th and Lonsdale Horse for the period 1875-1879.
Fort Knokke was about half a mile from Cape Castle, on the seafront near Woodstock Railway Station, it has been swallowed up by modern development. It would seem that the 1/24 and families were here from 1875 before moving north.
Zulu War Memorial St John's Cemetery Pinetown.
4th Royal Lanc's Regt Memorial, Old Cemetery Utrecht.
Zulu War Memorial. Kwa Dukusa Old Cemetery Stanger. Those who died at Herwen Military Hospital.
Bronkhorstspruit Battlefield Memorial, Bronkhorstspruit, includes individual memorials to Commissary Carter, Lt-Col Anstruther, Captains Nairne and Macswinney and Lieutenant Harrison all 94th.
Defence of Marabastad Fort 1880-81 Memorial, Marabastad.
Sgt Robert Anderson 58th KIA Laing's Nek 28 Jan 1881, Fort Napier Cemetery PMBurg.
Bandsman G W Wood 2/21 d.4 Aug 1881, St Luke's Churchyard Howick.
Private Henry Jones 60th Rifles d.1881, Fort Napier Cem PMBurg.
Corporal G Johnson C+T d.11 Aug 1881 Fort Napier Cem PMBurg.
First Boer War 1880-1881 Memorial Pretoria Main Cemetery.

Rai KLH.
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyTue Dec 28, 2021 6:26 pm

I have read all the articles re the Grave Memorials with great interest. My great Uncle 186 Trooper William Fletcher was a member of the Natal Mounted Police KIA at Isandlwana 22/1/1879. I understood that in accordance with army tradition he was buried on the battlefield and is listed on the Memorial erected in 1913 by ex-members and members of the NMP and NP of which I have colour copies showing the memorial and his inclusion. I wonder if someone could confirm my assumption re his place of burial is correct or if he may be buried elsewhere in one of the other grave sites although he is not listed in any of the information currently supplied by Rai KLH.
Rene Bennet.
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Dec 29, 2021 2:55 pm

Hi Luke
The memorial is not a headstone or a grave marker. Lower down the slope, to the east, is the Colonial Cemetery I would say that area, it has a number of cairns, is the most likely resting place of Trooper Fletcher. We dont, and never will, know exactly who is buried under the various mounds. There is also the possibility that Trooper Fletcher managed to fight his way over the saddle in which case he could be anywhere from iSandlwana to the Buffalo river.
Its a question you pose that Im afraid will never be answered.
Frank
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyWed Dec 29, 2021 6:35 pm

Hi Frank,

Very many thanks for your reply and information which I have noted. As you say something which will always be a mystery.
Rene Bennet
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PostSubject: Symons burial site   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyThu Dec 30, 2021 8:15 am

Hi Aussie,
If you have not looked at the records for the churchyard of the Anglican Church in Karkkloof, for Symons, suggest you start there. This place is NE of Pietrmaritzburg near Ottos Bluff, near which most of the Carbs were farming and originated.

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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyThu Dec 30, 2021 8:29 am

Thanks Barry

Have you seen it ? I have been trying to find it for quite some time 

Thanks

HAPPY NEW YEAR
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PostSubject: Re: eggsa site Grave Memorials   eggsa site Grave Memorials EmptyThu Dec 30, 2021 8:47 am

I am looking on the internet and found some old graves of the Symons  family do we now the names of the Symons brothers parents

here is a link     https://www.graves-at-eggsa.org/main.php?g2_itemId=1024324&g2_page=5


Also found a more detailed one on this link 

found some of the Symons Family but not Fred or his brother


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