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Does anyone know of a 24th Regt. wife (and probably widow) with the Christian name Bella? She's cropped up in a letter and it would help me to identify her husband.
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Found this chap, but can't get my head if it's his mother. "Charlotte Augusta Annabella,"

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littlehand, no sign of him in Hart's
1877/1880. acting adjutant..
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Rupert Carrington
Served in the Zulu War in 1879 as acting adjutant of the 1st Battalion, 24th Regiment of Foot, and later commanded a troop of mounted infantry.
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its a bit confusing for me.
on special service? lieut
grenadier guards, then
says he led a colonial
horse,but not in the AZW,
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Lieutenant-Colonel The Honourable Rupert Clement George Carington, born 18th December 1852, is brother of the Marquess of Lincolnshire, and son of the second Lord Carington. He was educated at Eton, and entered the Grenadier Guards 28th October 1871; contested Buckinghamshire in 1876; served in the Zulu War, 1879,He proceeded to the Cape in March 1879, with drafts, and took part in the advance of Newdigate’s Division. He was also present at the Battle of Ulundi (4th July 1879), and Boer War (Medal and Clasp); was M. P. (L) for Buckinghamshire, (1880-5); contested Wycombe, 1885; commanded the 3rd New South Wales Imperial Bushmen in South Africa, 1901-2, taking part in the operations in the Transvaal and Orange River Colony, 1901: operations in Cape Colony, 1901-2. He was mentioned in Despatches (London Gazettee, 20th July 1902); received the Queen’s Medal and five clasps, and was created a Companion of the Distinguished Service Order (London Gazette, 31st October 1902): “The Hon. Rupert Clement George Carington, Lieutenant-Colonel, 3rd New South Wales Imperial Bushmen. In recognition of services during the operations in South Africa.” He was promoted Colonel, and was created a C. V. O. in 1905. He married, in 1891, Edith (who died in 1908), daughter of John S Horsfall, of Widgiewa, New South Wales, and they had one son, Rupert Victor John Carington, born in 1891 (married in 1916 the Hon. Sybil Marion, daughter of the second Viscount Colville, and they have had one son and one daughter).
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Graves, good to see back! 

Who was his mother!
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Hi Littlehand

His mother was Charlotte Augusta Annabella.

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Julian,
 
This is from a letter of Private W. G. Wilson of the 2/24th, written February 22, 1879 at Rorke's Drift.
 
“We thought that we should hear something of at least a few of our other men, or the 1st Battalion; but out of the five companies and the band of the 1st and one of ours only two men of the 1st have escaped the massacre, and one of them happens to be Bella’s husband.   The two of them managed to get on spare horses that were handy.”
 
If you have any idea who the two men of the 1st Battalion are who escaped, you have a 50/50 chance of finding Bella’s husband.  She wouldn't be a widow though.
 
 
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acting adjutant after Melvill's death,Newdigate,
present at Ulundi. fill me in please. xhosa
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The choice isn't very big. Privates Bickley or Wilson.

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There again the Rocket Battery were all 1/24th. So add Grant Trainer Johnson and Williams.

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I think it's Wilson I'm after but I had a feeling it might be an NCO.
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Julian
There sounds like a familiar connotation in the comments by WG Wilson. Possible locating his home town and comparison back to J Wilson could be a line of thought?

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Yes, definitely, I'm pretty sure that this is the Bella I'm after.
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Hi
Found her! It was Bickley who married Bella Cope, a school mistress!
Many thanks all!
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