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Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:46 pm | |
| This is a group photograph of the August 1873 Hythe School of Musketry class. I will not patronize you by asking you to identify the 24 Regiment participant in this class as it would not be much of a challenge---of course, it is Lt. Charles D'Aguilar Pope with his dog sitting center just behind the first seated row. However, according to what I have been able to determine, there is only one other Zulu War veteran in this group. Can you name him and find him in the class photo? (Isandula Collection) [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:54 pm | |
| Clue #1--He's not sitting. |
| | | xhosa2000
Posts : 1183 Join date : 2015-11-24
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:42 pm | |
| I will have a bash at 2nd Lt George Evelyn 3rd Buff's. 3rd left top row. |
| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:37 pm | |
| Good shooting, Xhosa2000, but you're a bit off target but getting close. |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3311 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:20 am | |
| Is he wearing a diced forage cap or glengarry?
JB |
| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:01 pm | |
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| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:07 pm | |
| Clue #1--He's not sitting. Clue #2--Look like he's shooting us the finger, but he's not.
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| | | John Young
Posts : 3311 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:15 pm | |
| RB,
That's so you 'shooting the finger'.
Either Gordon or Alexander of the 2nd/21st.
JB
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| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:35 pm | |
| Yes, JB, it looks like his shooting finger, but you have the wrong guy in the 2/21st. |
| | | rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:37 pm | |
| Lt. Justice 2/21? But I am cheating from a list of those at the School of Musketry in August 1873. There was another AZW veteran present on the course, Lt H H Parr of the 13th, but I don't think he is in the picture.
Steve |
| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:07 pm | |
| Bingo!!!! Steve, you've nailed him---Lt. A.J. Justice, 2/21st Royal Scots, standing top, far left at the end, I believe. Well done!!! I checked the Mac & Shad with the JY index and cannot find Lt. H.H.Parr listed as being in the ZW, though, he well may have been. There is a list of participants photographed underneath the group pic for the August 1873 Musketry Class, and this is how I determined Justice was an Anglo-Zulu War vet. |
| | | rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:21 pm | |
| Thanks Isandula. I had jumped to the conclusion, probably quite wrongly, that H H Parr was Henry Hallam Parr - right regiment though and he probably was a Lt. in 1873.
Steve |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3311 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:35 pm | |
| Steve,
Only one H. H. Parr in the Army List, Henry Hallam Parr.
RB,
He isn't in Mac' & Shad', hence why he doesn't make it to the index!
JB |
| | | rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:43 pm | |
| Ah, thanks John. Any small chance it might be him end of back row on the far right? Or is the headgear wrong for the13th?
Steve |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3311 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:58 pm | |
| Steve, No that's a cavalry officer. The 13th's badge was a Mural Crown superscribed Jellalabad above a strung horn, with 13 in the centre of strings. Here's an out of focus image: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]13th PALI officer, Hythe 1878. (John Young Collection.John Y. |
| | | Isandula
Posts : 272 Join date : 2010-08-13
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:43 pm | |
| Wouldn't this be Henry Hallam Parr, 13th, seated just above Charlie Pope? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Me thinks matches up quite well with this photo of Frere's staff, with Parr seated far left. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] |
| | | John Young
Posts : 3311 Join date : 2013-09-08 Age : 68 Location : Слава Україні! Героям слава!
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:24 pm | |
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| | | rusteze
Posts : 2871 Join date : 2010-06-02
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:45 pm | |
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| | | xhosa2000
Posts : 1183 Join date : 2015-11-24
| Subject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser #3 Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:52 pm | |
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