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PostSubject: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySat Feb 11, 2017 3:49 pm

Just to liven things up---can anyone identify the Zulu War veteran in this Victorian group?  This could be tough.   A clue each day---
            Today's clue----1) in mufti

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PostSubject: The Group   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySat Feb 11, 2017 4:16 pm

Hi Isandula,

What a bunch of dudes!.
Reminds me of the Randlords, ie Barney Barnato and his illustrious well connected thugs.
My private joke.
Keep guessing.

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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySat Feb 11, 2017 4:17 pm

Yes, could be a minor connection there but wrong time period.
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PostSubject: The Dudes   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySat Feb 11, 2017 4:26 pm

Hi Isandula,

Wot,...... no Barnato, Fitzpatrick (Percy), Phillips, Rhodes ( CJ's brother), Alfred Beit, Jamison, etc

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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySat Feb 11, 2017 9:59 pm

Staff College group. 1870 or 1871.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySat Feb 11, 2017 10:29 pm

JB, you are colder than Barry, me thinks.
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PostSubject: The dudes   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 6:56 am

Hi Isandula,

Period maybe +10-12 years post Isandlwana?
Horace Smith Dorien anywhere there?.

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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 7:24 am

Barry,

Just as a heads-up the Rifle Brigade officer is wearing a pre-1881 uniform, to help your time-range.

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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 12:57 pm

Barry,  Good try, but not Horace S-D, and, JB, cool uniform on RB officer.   Today's clue:

Clue 1--in mufti
Clue 2--with bowler


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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 2:39 pm

Wilfred Heaton 24th.?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 2:50 pm

xhosa2000, Which guy? Good try, but sorry not WH.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 2:56 pm

Isandula..top row second from the right looking reflective.. Grrrr!
this is bugging.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 2:59 pm

my other guess is Clements left second row.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 3:06 pm

Sorry, xhosa2000, a more enlightening clue tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 4:39 pm

That's a great photo Isandula. As to identifying any of them not a clue. Can see this one going on for sometime.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 5:05 pm

littlehand, I can make it really hard, but therein lies the challenge. Tomorrow's clue ought to put you on it if you can pick the right guy out.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 6:37 pm

White Cliffs of Dover?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 6:43 pm

Ernest Henry Buller.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 6:46 pm

JB, you're getting colder. Tomorrow's clue will make you a happy man!
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 9:34 pm

Sub Inspector Philips, NMP?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 10:24 pm

Sorry, Frederic, not a colonial.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 10:48 pm

Isandula,
Photography taken during the Transvaal War?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 10:53 pm

Not sure about that one, Frederic.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 11:08 pm

Isandula,
Officer belonged either 58th Regiment, either 3/60 Rifles, either 1st Dragoon Guards, either 2/21th Regiment?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 11:44 pm

Nein, Frederic--tomorrow's clue will put you on the right track, no doubt
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptySun Feb 12, 2017 11:50 pm

Clue 1--in mufti
Clue 2--with bowler
Clue 3--With the right daddy, it's easy to get a plum position.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 12:32 am

It is therefore not a regiment involved both in the Zulu war and the Transvaal war
About you clue 3: Lysons or Beresford?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 12:34 am

An Officer with "special duty" during the Zulu war.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 1:03 am

Does he have a knobkerry with him ?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 1:11 am

No, Frederic, not Lysons or Beresford--but probably "yes" to the second query. John, if he has a knobbie with him in the photo, then it must be a miniature in his pocket.

Clue 1--in mufti
Clue 2--with bowler
Clue 3--With the right daddy, it's easy to get a plum position.
Clue 4--By all accounts, he was an "Honourable" man.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 5:05 am

B.C.A. Frere.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 11:17 am

EUREKA!!!  Well done, JB, you are correct!!!!   The Honourable Bartle Compton Arthur Frere, Rifle Brigade and on Chelmsford's staff, and.....son of the High Commissioner of South Africa, Sir Bartle Frere.  Now which one is he in the group photo?
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 11:28 am

RB,

Centre row right.

Photographed at the White Cliffs of Dover, when his battalion was garrisoned at The Citadel Barracks.

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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 11:41 am

Spot on, JB--middle row, far right. Note all the titles on these rakes.

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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 12:28 pm

Well done JY.. fiendishly difficult. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 9:20 pm

John you beat me to it! Just.
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PostSubject: Re: Zulu War Brain teaser   Zulu War Brain teaser EmptyMon Feb 13, 2017 9:25 pm

I think John was referring to this, when he said Knobkerry!

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