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Rory Reynolds



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PostSubject: Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptyThu Feb 06, 2020 6:09 pm

I have a acquired a pair of medals as follows:

- SAGS 1853 to Sjt. J. Brown, 45th Regiment and
- SAGS 1879 clasp to Tpr Brown, Newcastle Mounted Rifles

I'm sure these are to the same man, John Brown, who was born in 1826 making him in his mid 20's during the Kafir Wars and then a mature 53 at the time of the Zulu War.

My question is, however, was he one of the survivors of Isandlwana (where 7 of his comrades perished)? Is there a roll of those from the NMR who were there?

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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptyThu Feb 06, 2020 9:45 pm

Evening Rory,

There is an NMR Isandlwana survivor with the surname Brown recorded - neither the Dutton medal roll nor Terry Sole's For God, Queen & Colony offer an initial, although Julian Whybra's England's Sons has him as  Thomas.

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PostSubject: Isandlwana Survivor    Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptySat Feb 08, 2020 5:03 am

I doubt it's the same chap , for a start J.Whybra has his Christian name as Thomas , and being a Sgt initial (J ) in 1853 you'd certainly think he would possibly have that same rank in a Volunteer Unit ? .
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptySat Feb 22, 2020 7:55 am

I think it unlikely. Brown is a common name.
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptySat Feb 22, 2020 8:01 am

Julian Whybra wrote:
I think it unlikely. Brown is a common name.

Excuse me!

We used to have an 'e' at the end of our name but my Gt Grandfather, fell upon hard times and had to sell it......


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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptySat Feb 22, 2020 8:03 am

Now, if he were called Whybra....
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PostSubject: Re: Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptySun Feb 23, 2020 12:17 pm

Thank you for your input gentlemen - Mr Brown will remain semi-anonymous for the moment - still a nice medal to have to a survivor of Isandlwana - there weren't many of them left.
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Rory Reynolds wrote:
Thank you for your input gentlemen - Mr Brown will remain semi-anonymous for the moment - still a nice medal to have to a survivor of Isandlwana - there weren't many of them left.

I can assure you he is not a member of the 'Staffordshire' Browns - we are natural cowards......at the first sign of strife - we historically have headed for the coal mines and deferred service..... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Isandlwana Survivor ? NMR.   Isandlwana survivor? Newcastle Mounted Rifles EmptySun Feb 23, 2020 10:53 pm

Hi Rory
Yes agreed , an excellent Medal
Hi Sime
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA What can one say ?
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