90th foot sgt T. Collins 214

Posts : 11 Join date : 2021-05-18

Hello again from a newbie. I was amazed at the information you guys had on Trooper Flowers from the Colonial Light Horse- thanks very much!

I came across an 1879 South Africa medal with 77-78-79 bar to Sgt T Collins (214) from the 90th foot. I would assume that Sgt Collins was involved at Kambala and Ulundi, but don't have any verification or specific information.

Does anyone have any information from their sources about Sgt Collins?

Thanks again for any help!

Subject: 90th Foot Sgt T. Collins Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:32 am

Hi Blind Pew
Sorry , I'm away so I'm unable to help .
90th Salute

Posts : 11 Join date : 2021-05-18

Well hopefully not away forever.

I am a very patient fellow- I know it is an effort to look into these soldiers, so I appreciate the help if at all possible in the future. Hopefully you are on a nice vacation; I just got back from Rocky Mountain National Park- cool, but too crowded for my tastes.

Thanks for the rapid response!

Subject: 90th Foot Sgt T. Collins Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:23 am

Yes it's been an excellent vacation , place is a lot quieter due to Covid here in Australia , great weather compared to where I come from down further south here in Aussie Winter has well and truly arrived ! Salute

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Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Sun May 26, 2024 12:16 pm

I have 214 Sergeant Thomas Collins' South Africa medal with 1879 clasp, he is a Sergeant on the medal but is listed as Private in Roy Dutton's Medal Roll Book, can anybody help to identify him as I have no further Information regarding his career, etc, would appreciate any help given.

Posts : 3379 Join date : 2009-03-03 Location : Devon

Hi Johnman

Welcome to the forum.

Could you please tell me exactly what is stated on the rim of this medal please.

Andy

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Mon May 27, 2024 10:58 am

Hi Andy,

The inscription on the medal reads: " No 214 SERGT THOS COLLINS 90th Foot"

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Hi Johnman

I am only going to show what I have found and I am not going to make any statement about the medal.

This is from the 90th Medal Roll
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The faded entries I am unable to read them.
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I have not been able to find his service record but have found his later Militia service record.
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Hope this helps
Andy

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Thu May 30, 2024 2:11 pm

Hi Andy,

Many thanks for the information that you have given me regarding Thomas Collins' Militia Record, very much appreciated, I have engaged the services of a professional researcher to search for his Army Record in the National Archives London and hope that his service record at the time of the Zulu War still exists, I will let you know what he finds.

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Thu May 30, 2024 3:06 pm

Hi Andy,

Can I ask a further question, what is the Heading of the 90th Foot Medal Roll? the reason I ask is the columns of "Yes" against a Soldier's name, what do they signify?

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Hi Johnman

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Please update me of any of your findings.

Andy

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Fri May 31, 2024 10:38 am

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your reply, I thought that was the Heading but was not sure, I will let you know if they find more on him.

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:12 pm

Hi Andy,

I have got the results from the researcher and it appears that his Army Record no longer exists but he sent me the "Pay Lists and Muster Rolls" information regarding him and will try and insert a copy of what he has put together regarding his career, It looks like him being Sergeant on the Medal and Private on the Medal Roll will remain a mystery, I would appreciate your views on that subject (I am unsure how to send a copy of the document, could you let me know how that is done?

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:46 am

Can somebody tell me how to upload a document to the Forum, any help will be much appreciated.

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:33 am

johnman,

You have to upload your image to site such as Postimages.

That in turn gives you a reference to “Hotlink to a Forum”. Copy the link and you should get a link. Paste the link into your answer, and you should get something like this:

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Hope that helps, if not pm me.

JY

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:58 am

Thanks for your answer to my query, I will try that and see what happens.

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:59 am

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Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:12 am

I have finally managed to upload a summary of Sergt Thomas Collins' career, his Service Records do not appear to have survived but I got a Researcher to search the "MUSTER ROLLS AND PAY LISTS" for the 90th Foot and got the information from them, thank you John Young for helping me to upload the image, the rank of Sergeant on his medal remains a mystery, he was a Sergeant in the Militia later on in 1887/8 but he would have been awarded the medal before then i would have thought.

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Hi Johnman

Many thanks for sharing your findings.

Andy

Subject: Re: 90th foot sgt T. Collins 214 Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:57 am

Hi Andy,

No problem but it's a pity that I could not get further info on him.

Johnman

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