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Apparently slightly wounded in the Zulu War N/t though of a Branch in the 24th medal rolls

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This is the photograph mentioned at the beginning of the article above showing the Branch brothers
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Hi All,
A bit confusing. J R Branch no number is on the 90th Medal Roll 77/8/9 medal. I picked up one military record, R Hosp Pensions, J R Branch, Black Watch late 2 Scots Fusiliers enlisted 30 Dec 1873 discharged 5 Jan 1886 served 12 years number 180. The one day discrepancy in the enlistment in the newspaper is probably the day he enlisted and the day he joined the regiment.
On the 1881 census, address 70 Manchester Road, Burnley J.R is listed as a Joiner [not a Soldier] with brother Tom. J. R married Frances Elizabeth Calverley at St James Burnley on 14 Jan 1891. On the 1891 census taken in April address Lindsay St, Burnley, he is Single and a Clerk. By the 1911 census adress 9 Tennyson St Burnley living with Frances and 2 kids.
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Its interesting this Rai because without the diary and purely looking at his Black Watch military record you could make the assumption that he did not take part in the AZW but he was definitly there.
Does it say anything on his Black Watch record about being in SA?
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Hi Again,
I did write he is on the 90th Roll for the Zulu War, i also wrote what was on the pension record only this only gives his enlistment and discharge with some regiment data.
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Appreciate your imput Rai on this and your time and research.
(I had already noted yesterday that he was in the 90th with no number and his medal details.)

I suppose what I'm getting at is that if you just read the newspaper account in my initial post which suggests he was with the 24th and then checked the military records showing him with the Black Watch, who weren't in the AZW, you could make the assumption the newspaper had got it wrong and that he wasn't there.
However the diary then pins him down with the 90th, the medal rolls confirm this and the rest is, as they say, history.
Sorry for not making that clearer in my last post
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I just discovered your site in doing my research on John Robert Branch who was a relative /ancestor. I have copies of letters from the Burnley Express of 1879 mentioning him and from him in South Africa if it would be interesting as a post?
Also it was mentioned in the thread that you have seen the 90th muster roll with his name and pension records, I would be very interested in seeing a picture of those since I have not discovered them yet?
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I am trying to figure out how to post pics of my newspaper articles, not sure I have done it🤷‍�
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The above were from Burnley Express, May 10, 1879.
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I am a little confused by the discharge information on J R Branch. I know that he had been a driver in the Royal Artillery before joining the 90th Regiment. Does the discharge info show him being a member of the 2nd Btn. Royal Scots?
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The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) was formed in 1881 under the Childers Reforms by the amalgamation of the 26th Cameronian Regiment and the 90th Perthshire Light Infantry. After the amalgamation, the 1st Battalion preferred to be known as "The Cameronians" while the 2nd preferred to be known as "The Scottish Rifles".

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