WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM

Film Zulu Dawn quote: “Excuse me, my Lord, there's something I must convey to you. I rode along the track down to Rorke's Drift. The sky above is red with fire. Your orders my Lord? Do we move to the drift?”
 
HomeHome  GalleryGallery  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  
Latest topics
» Henry William Longcast, Interpreter.
New member EmptyTue Oct 27, 2020 9:29 am by John Young

» Officers of the 1st Battalion, 24th Regiment circa 1868
New member EmptyMon Oct 26, 2020 11:31 pm by John Young

» HMS Active RMA and Kroomen duties
New member EmptySat Oct 24, 2020 10:39 pm by Herbie

» Famous death?
New member EmptySat Oct 24, 2020 3:38 pm by Frank Allewell

» N/5 Battery RA at Isandlwana
New member EmptySat Oct 24, 2020 10:20 am by SRB1965

» The Pickets on Mkwene
New member EmptyFri Oct 23, 2020 11:30 am by Frank Allewell

» Durnford's medical officer
New member EmptyFri Oct 23, 2020 9:51 am by Julian Whybra

» Victorian HMS SHAH South Africa Zulu Wars Medal William Morrison Royal Navy
New member EmptyThu Oct 22, 2020 5:37 pm by Danny1960

» 1st Battalion, 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment, 1875
New member EmptyMon Oct 19, 2020 12:29 pm by John Young

» The 'other' fighting clerk - Corporal JH Mayor, N.N.C
New member EmptySat Oct 17, 2020 5:07 am by Frank Allewell

» Somerset soldiers killed at Isandhlwana
New member EmptyFri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 am by Julian Whybra

» "The Wiltshire Regiment 1756-1914"
New member EmptySat Oct 10, 2020 4:46 am by kaveman

» The Unknown Warrior Westminster Abbey
New member EmptyWed Oct 07, 2020 3:06 pm by ADMIN

» Lance Corporal Robert Eaton NMP
New member EmptyTue Oct 06, 2020 2:12 pm by Julian Whybra

» Lieutenant Anthony Kingscote, HMS Tenedos
New member EmptyFri Oct 02, 2020 3:31 pm by Petty Officer Tom

» Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour
New member EmptyThu Oct 01, 2020 4:22 pm by 90th

» William De Passey, 17th Lancers.1879.
New member EmptyThu Oct 01, 2020 11:27 am by 1879graves

» Lieutenant Frederick Streatfield Pelly, RN
New member EmptyTue Sep 29, 2020 4:09 pm by 1879graves

» KEYNSHAMLIGHTHORSE GRAVES WEBSITE
New member EmptyTue Sep 29, 2020 8:08 am by ADMIN

» Regimental numbers
New member EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 12:55 pm by Frank Allewell

» Isandlwana, Last Stands
New member EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 9:13 am by Julian Whybra

» Colour of Lord Chelsmford eyes
New member EmptyFri Sep 25, 2020 8:05 am by Simonsole

» List of identified bodies at Isandlwana
New member EmptyThu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am by John Young

» Defenders of Rorkes Drift
New member EmptyWed Sep 16, 2020 6:47 pm by Digger

» Colour Sgt Anthony Clark Booth, VC.
New member EmptyTue Sep 15, 2020 6:47 pm by ADMIN

» Cpl John Lyons
New member EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 7:49 pm by Bill8183

» A Case of Mistaken Identity?
New member EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 11:29 am by John Young

» What happened next
New member EmptyMon Sep 14, 2020 10:51 am by Springbok

» Surgeon Espine Charles Ward
New member EmptyWed Sep 09, 2020 9:38 am by John Young

» 2nd Lieutenant William Lancelot James, 2nd/4th Regiment.
New member EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 2:41 pm by ADMIN

» Explaining Amabutho in one word??
New member EmptyMon Sep 07, 2020 11:49 am by SRB1965

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Navy and Royal Marines
New member EmptyThu Sep 03, 2020 4:05 pm by Frank Allewell

» Non-Combat Casualties - Royal Artillery
New member EmptyWed Sep 02, 2020 8:01 pm by Catiline63

» Colonel William,Egerton Saunders, C.B
New member EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:46 pm by ADMIN

» Lieutenant-Colonel David Campbell Williamson.
New member EmptySun Aug 30, 2020 10:32 pm by ADMIN

Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Rorke's Drift BBC Radio 4
Top posters
90th
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
littlehand
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
ADMIN
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
1879graves
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
rusteze
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Chelmsfordthescapegoat
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
John
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Mr M. Cooper
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Top posting users this month
John Young
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Frank Allewell
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Herbie
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Julian Whybra
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
90th
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
aussie inkosi
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Petty Officer Tom
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
SRB1965
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
ymob
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Isandula
New member Bar_leftNew member BarNew member Bar_right 
Most active topics
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Durnford was he capable.1
Durnford was he capable. 4
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The ammunition question
Durnford was he capable. 3
Durnford was he capable.2
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Most Viewed Topics
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
The missing five hours.
Isandlwana, Last Stands
Adding to the Library
The ammunition question
Recent Members To The ZULU WAR 1879 Discussion & Reference Forum ( A Small Victorian War in 1879)
ISANDLWANA SURVIVIORS
Durnford was he capable.5
Pte David Jenkins. 'Forgotten' Survivor of Rorke's Drift Returned to Official Records
Lieutenant Adendorff 1-3 N.N.C.
Fair Use Notice
Fair use notice. This website may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not been specifically authorised by the copyright owner. We are making such material and images are available in our efforts to advance the understanding of the “Anglo Zulu War of 1879. For educational & recreational purposes. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material, as provided for in UK copyright law. The information is purely for educational and research purposes only. No profit is made from any part of this website. If you hold the copyright on any material on the site, or material refers to you, and you would like it to be removed, please let us know and we will work with you to reach a resolution.
Keywords
Durnford harford 24th spalding Mounted Russell smith henry Woolfryes martini melvill james Franklin payne Natal taylor Isandlwana william Police George zulu john horse drift gardner Prince

 

 New member

Go down 
AuthorMessage
crimea

crimea

Posts : 13
Join date : 2020-07-14

New member Empty
PostSubject: New member   New member EmptyTue Jul 14, 2020 8:07 pm

Thank you for allowing me to join the group, I hope to learn a lot here.

Crimea
Back to top Go down
AlanB



Posts : 5
Join date : 2020-07-14

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyTue Jul 14, 2020 9:11 pm

Hi, I'm new to the forum today, so I hope posting here is correct!
I'm looking for information on Gunner William Adams of 7th Brigade Royal Regiment of Artillery. I have a his marriage record from St Helena dated 1873, which has been over-written "struck of married Establishment 28.7.79. I believe that HMS Shah left St Helena for Durban then, and I know from the 1881 census that he had retired from active service by then and lived in Cheltenham (his birth town). From his age in 1881, his birth would be c 845, but I do not know the attestation date or his service number.

Can anyone help me with information about him or the movements of the 7th Brigade so that I in turn can help a friend with his ancestors which he knows absolutely nothing about apart from his Grandfather's name (not even his father's name)!

Thanks and regards
AlanB
Back to top Go down
AlanB



Posts : 5
Join date : 2020-07-14

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyTue Jul 14, 2020 9:12 pm

Apologies! That should have been 1845!
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 2145
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 64
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyWed Jul 15, 2020 6:23 pm

AlanB,

We have recently answered an enquiry regarding R M Adams, who also served in 11/7 R. A. posed by CathyW.

That will help you with the movements of the battery.

However, I cannot find a W. Adams from 11/7 R. A., on the Medal Roll for the Zulu campaign.  It is feasible that his term of enlistment had expired and he was making his way home.

JY
Back to top Go down
AlanB



Posts : 5
Join date : 2020-07-14

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyWed Jul 15, 2020 9:00 pm

Thanks for the reply John,
How many batteries did the 7th Brigade have? I had a suspicion (can't remember where from) that it might have been 8 Battery he was in? Does that make any sense - did the 7th HAVE an 8 Battery? Also which part of 7th Brigade went on the Shah? Was it the whole brigade?

He could (as you say) have been on his way home, but he still would have had a service number, and I can't find it!

Sorry, so many questions and I have absolutely no idea how on earth to use this forum - it seems very confusing to me (like it says I've had 3 replies, but I can only see yours!).

Thanks for the help.
Kind regards
Alan
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 2145
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 64
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyWed Jul 15, 2020 10:15 pm

AlanB,

Sorry my mind is elsewhere at present.

In my haste to answer you I neglected other batteries of 7th Brigade, Royal Artillery which in the Zulu Campaign.

Elements of No. 8 Battery, 7th Brigade, Royal Artillery, three officers and fifty-two other ranks, embarked from Saint Helena on H.M.S. Shah on 12th February 1879, arriving in Durban on 6th March 1879.  They served in the field between 2nd April until 2nd August 1879.  They garrisoned a number of fortifications during their deployment, but never saw any action against the Zulu.

Elements of No. 10 Battery, 7th Brigade, Royal Artillery, two officers and fifty-two other ranks, embarked from Mauritius on the Umvoti on 12th March 1879, arriving in Durban on 26th March 1879.  They were subsequently designated a Gatling Gun battery.  They served during the second invasion of Zululand.

No. 11 Battery, 7th Brigade, Royal Artillery, served throughout the campaign, with detachments serving in the Coastal and Northern Columns.

For a better understanding of the role of the Royal Artillery in Zulu War of 1879 see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

JY
Back to top Go down
Petty Officer Tom

Petty Officer Tom

Posts : 158
Join date : 2017-02-05

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyWed Jul 15, 2020 10:43 pm

Alan,

It was Number 8 Battery, 7 Brigade, R.A. that sailed from St. Helena on 14 February 1879 and arriving at Durban on 6 March 1879.

Two other batteries of 7 Brigade also were sent to Durban, South Africa.  
Number 10 Battery, 7 Brigade sailed from Mauritius 12 March 1879 aboard the merchant ship “Umvoti” and arrived at Durban, South Africa on 26 March 1879.  
Number 11 Battery, 7 Brigade sailed from Southampton aboard merchant ship “Olympus” on 24 February, arriving at Durban, South Africa 31 March 1879.

I had a quick look through D. R. Forsyth’s “South African War Medal 1877-8-9” and there is no Gunner W. Adams listed for Number 8 Battery.

Tom
Back to top Go down
AlanB



Posts : 5
Join date : 2020-07-14

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyThu Jul 16, 2020 12:55 pm

Hi Guys,
Thanks for this info!!!
So I gather that not all of 7th Brigade left St Helena in March 1879, and I guess that if his service period was nearly at the end, he may have stayed in St Helena and never saw action.
I've discovered another record on Ancestry (the original is on Fold3.com, but I'm not a member) which has a Chelsea Pensioner admission/discharge for a William Adams, Gnr Royal Artillery dated 28 July 1879 - the exact date noted on his marriage record in St Helena.

There is also a service number on Forces War Records for a William Adams, Gunner Royal Artillery, Service Number 6250. He had served for 18 years with recommendation date of 1879, but that is noted as Coastal Brigade. Think these are pretty convincing... but was the 7th Brigade also 'Coastal"?

How can I check out the 6250? If that number appears for St Helena, then I have a real match!

Thank you SO much for your insights
Kind regards
Alan
Back to top Go down
John Young

John Young

Posts : 2145
Join date : 2013-09-08
Age : 64
Location : Lower Sheering, Essex

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyThu Jul 16, 2020 8:15 pm

Alan,

Just correct your opening paragraph, not all of No. 8 Battery, 7th Brigade, Royal Artillery left Saint Helena on the Shah. Half of the battery remained on the island to man the defences, the cannon at Ladder Hill Fort which commanded the harbour at Jamestown were fixed positioned heavy coastal defence cannon. So I think you have your answer.

JY
Back to top Go down
AlanB



Posts : 5
Join date : 2020-07-14

New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member EmptyThu Jul 16, 2020 9:08 pm

Thanks John - Wow, great info on the coastal defences!!!
Now I'm sure I have my answer!
Regards
Alan
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




New member Empty
PostSubject: Re: New member   New member Empty

Back to top Go down
 
New member
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
WWW.1879ZULUWAR.COM  :: GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA-
Jump to: