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Hi everyone I hope your all safe

after being in lock down and having spare time I have added a new video entitled the discovery of the Zulu army at the battle of Isandlwana yes its my pet subject but I will try to download more videos time permits

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Aussie the Major talks of 'we' when commentating on conclusions reached? Could you elaborate?
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Hi Frank
The video was filmed in 2017, as you know the Major had his input a Ron Lock and Peter Quantrill work of the missing 5 hours plus they were great mates if you read the forwards of there books the Major rates a mention.

Remember Bakers sighting the large Zulu army from that hill its there on the video but the Major has placed Itusi in the wrong place.

I will go through it with you mate

As the Major is going through the locations on the video he mentions Itusi we need to locate the correct spot the major incorrectly located Itusi at the 1 minute 20sec mark he mentions Itusi he has it in the wrong spot go to the 1 minute40 sec mark and he mentions a clump of trees to the right of the trees you can see a rocky outcrop this is Itusi clearly and to the right of the rocky outcrop is the NQutu ridge he then mentions another clump of trees on the ridge and places Raw coming from there infact Mkwene is further to the right. So you can clearly see Itusi this is were Trooper Barker starts his journey lets go to his words " The Zulus then remained on the hills and about 200 advanced to 300 meters of us { so from roughly were those trees to the left of Itusi is were this screening force advanced to } but on our advancing they retired { to the left of the trees away from Barker } and on a further hill 600 yards we saw a large Zulu army very well lets focus on the cattle in the video you can see the ridge line drops and rises to a second hill it is this hill 600yards up he sees the army he is looking in the same spot as the missing five hours claim the discovery took place this is clear it can even be proven and confirmed with Barkers direction from the very point of view of that same army being discovered by Raw and Roberts

I only work't this out last weekend, have I convinced you yet of the discovery location what if I show you this hill from Itusi ?
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Hi Aussie
Just wanted to make sure Ron and Peter got their mention.
But no Im not convinced, happy to go along with portion of TMFHT but in general there is just far to much not taken into account by R and P. Again as I said last time you brought the subject up we need to agree to disagree on Barker etc. I re walked that entire area in January this year over a three day period specifically looking at your concepts. I would be interested in seeing your videos from Mkwene and the top of iSandlwana in terms of the 'concealed' area.
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Hi Frank

Believe me, there is a lot of dead ground in that spot from Mkwene I have photos to prove it remember that wooded area beside that donga you can see that from Mkwene but not all that dead ground, tell me can you see all of that donga from Mkwene . NO NOT ALL what about all that space from the donga to the ridge. Two zulu regiments easy can fit there. The views from Isandlwana mount does not give you line of sight, the Nqutu ridge is higher up.


Read Uguku he mentions a black trooper and his horse was killed how close must you be, to kill a horse with a musket, believe me within 100 meters thats how close some of the zulus were to that ridge line.

LOOK CLOSELY AT YOUR PHOTOS FROM MKWENE they are the same as mine they say the same story.

Barkers words matches these conclusions he got it right back in 1879 we have it wrong in 2020.
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Hi Aussie
Its a misnomer that you cant see over the ridge from the top of iSandlwana, theres a very large swath visible. From Mkwene again a very large swath, sure a certain amount of dead ground but you cannot cherry pick the pieces you want to create a scenario. The situation has to be viewed as a whole. Assumptions, such as the trooper being killed with a musket and at 100 yards as an instance. Uguku again has to be viewed with caution, its a third hand account. It was a story told to Vanyada and then passed through a 'General Officer' to a reporter. If one takes it as face value then the question has to be asked: 'if the impi was hunkered down in the donga then how did Uguku see the patrol riding UP the hill, surely his view would only have been whence the patrol breasted the hill?'
I dont disbelieve Barkers statement but there are other interpretations that you are not taking cognisance of.
Ron had a lot of questions directed at him over TNFH that never received satisfactory answers, including the so called 'Woods' handwriting over the top of the pencilled 'Henderson' notes.
Ground conditions over 140 years have changed quite a lot, in particular the area under consideration. In the late 60s the road to Nqutu was literally a track that ran over the hills rather than through them like the present main road so that 'valley seperating Mabaso from the ridge didnt exist. Likewise the area either side of the bridge on the main road over the Ngwebini stream has been raised up quite considerably. The village on Mabaso didnt exist and the road through to iSandlwana was a bare track. The ford over the upper Ngwebini wasnt there and the stream had a more natural flow, so not creating the dongas that exist today.
The late Lt Col Mike Mcabe RE had some amazing views on the changes in the topography and always counselled against using the present conditions to justify theories based on past actions.
As has been directed at me time and time again for an essay to be credited it has to have proof proof and proof.
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Hi Frank
I did say from the very begining that all these Zulus these pickets were seeing were screens Uguku was part of the screen closer to the ridge line thats why he saw them coming. you have all these zulus on the far side of the donga no your wrong they were on the other side of the donga as goes with changes of terrain the hills are still there roads were placed on top of them, all those rocks covering Mabaso there the same rocks that were there in 1879 no one placed them there post 1879. So pathetic was the British scouting not one scouting party scouted Mabaso in the 3 days they were there.

Barker seals it and what he saw are the same Zulus in the same location as Raw and Roberts discovered the time matches perfectly, have you ever considered that ? him running into the rocket battery gives it all away like I said before, Barker told Russell not to go up there, read what he said Barker said the Zulus are advancing towards that hill that tells you they moved up and not all in the valley behind Mabaso.

Like you said we need to agree to disagree, keep safe mate.
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Have you read and does the video take into account Hamer's 1887 account? It has a bearing.
I should also, before December, be in possession of a copy of Hamer's map of where the two troops rode on the plateau that morning. I don't expect much from it but it may be of some use.
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Is that from David Julian?
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Hi Julian
The video was an overview of the missing 5 hours location in question, have you viewd it and followed my above instruction in determining Bakers location when he spotted that large zulu army. I would love to see that map if thats possible I never new he wrote a map, concerning his testimony I understand his only version is a letter to his father.

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I have a photo from Mkwene do you want me to place it on the forum and it will clearly show you how much dead ground when you see it with the video I posted on you tube from the zulu hidden side.
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pm me an e-mail address and I'll send you the 1887 account in confidence.
When I get the map, I'll do likewise. Hamer drew three maps in all - two have vanished - one was in the NAM but has since been stolen.
Frank
Yes, the NAM one was one David copied. His legatee is allowing me access to all his papers, post-lockdown, so it should be there.
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Good as you know Ive been after that for a long time, it should show the route Raw took.


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KInd of you Aussie but I do have.
Could I suggest that you have a careful look at the letter Raw/Grenfell, DAAG Fort Napier February 1879.It could influence your thinking.
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Hi Frank and Julian

Julian I will PM you after this thanks mate.

Frank, sorry I dont have this info letter Raw / Grenfell I will PM you my email as well

thanks both of you I love digging for new discoveries.

Of to work know to meet the mechanic who will fix my machine, need to work all weekend to catch up with the back log.

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