Zulu Dawn! Lt. Col. Pulleine : His Lordship is of the cetain opinion that it's far too difficult an approach to be chosen by the Zulu command. Col. Durnford : Yes, well... difficulty never deterred a Zulu commander.
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Posts : 94 Join date : 2015-11-08 Age : 53 Location : Sunderland
Subject: Cpl John Lyons Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:00 am
Cpl John Lyons (wounded in the neck at RD) had previous service in the 57th & 63rd Regts. Does any one have any info on whether he was discharged before joining the 24th? I ask this because he is listed as a recruit in the 24th Bde Depot under troops allocated to the 25th Bde enlisting at Cardiff on pay 24-27 Jan 1877 before going to 25th Bde Depot as 25B/1112. This would suggest he re-engaged.
Herbie
Posts : 82 Join date : 2017-11-16 Age : 56 Location : Epsom, Surrey
Subject: Re: Cpl John Lyons Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:47 am
Hi Bill All I’ve got further is Greaves Rorkes Drift which says he Attested 28/1/77 posted to 1/24th transferred to 2/24th 22/2/77. I presume being attested again implies he had been discharged after previous service. Greaves says he was appointed L/Cpl 13/1/77 but is this a typo as it is before his attestation date? He was then promoted Cpl 26/11/77 so presumably recognition of his ability following his previous service. Regards Phil
Kenny
Posts : 455 Join date : 2013-05-07 Location : Brecon
Subject: Re: Cpl John Lyons Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:40 pm
Bill,
The notes I have:
Enlisted c. June 1864. Attested c. June 1864 for the 57th Foot serving for 6 years. Served New Zealand c.1865-67. Served in India 4 years. Transferred to 63rd Foot, served for 4 years 4 months less desertion for 7 months. Transferred to 25th Brigade date not traced. Posted to 1st/24th Foot no date. Appointed Lance/Corporal 13/1/1877. Transferred to 2nd/24th Foot 22/2/1877.
New Zealand Medal 1845-66
One of the few defenders who already had a campaign medal.
ADMIN
Posts : 4272 Join date : 2008-11-01 Age : 62 Location : KENT
Subject: Re: Cpl John Lyons Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:30 am
There's further information on link below. That might be interesting to some members.
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Bill8183
Posts : 94 Join date : 2015-11-08 Age : 53 Location : Sunderland
25th Bde Depot 28/01877-21/02/1877 WO 12/10247 Jan-Mar Quarter Pg 32d Remarks: To 2/24th 22 Feb
2/24th 25B/1112 From 25 Bde 22 Feb 22/02/1877-31/03/1877 WO 12/4157 Pg 42
2/24th Pte 01/10/1877-12/11/1877 Pg 34 L/Cpl 13/11/1877-25/11/1877 L/Cpl vice Dick Pg 15 Cpl 26/11/1877-31/03/1878 Cpl vice Cronin Pg 12 WO 16/1579 Oct 1877-Mar 1878 Quarter
@ Herbie, obviously a typo in Greaves.
@ Kenny not sure where the information came from which states he went to the first Battalion. The 57th were in New Zealand January 1861-April 1867 before returning to the UK then to Ireland in September 1871 The 63rd were in Ireland from August 1867-November 1870 before going to India until 1882. It's possible he transferred over to the 63rd to increase their establishment for India, the dates are about right. When I next get a chance I will try to search the 63rd's paylist around 74/75 to see if he discharged. I will also try to see if his service record survived on Findmypast.
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