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PostSubject: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour   Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyTue Sep 29, 2020 9:13 pm

I am very interested in learning more about Sir Robert Cordon Gilmour.  Several years ago I acquired a very fine shotgun built by HJ Hussey sometime between 1907 -1910.  All of HJ's guns were bespoke so I know the gun was built to someone's specifications.  The family crest/coat of arms is engraved in a gold oval in the stock (see photo).

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This is the gun, cased.

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I did some research in Fairbairn's book of crests of the families of Great Britain and Ireland and the only family referencing that motto (Perseverantidabitur) is Gilmour of Craigmillar, Scotland.
Researching that family name lead me to Sir Robert Gilmour.  The timing would be about the time he turned 50 and his retirement from the Grenadier Guards in July of 1910 and gun would have been ordered by a man of means.

Can anyone provide any additional information on Sir Gilmour? Was he a sporting gentleman?

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PostSubject: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour    Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 6:26 am

Surprisingly he's not mentioned in my copy of M&S !!
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PostSubject: Re: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour   Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 10:53 am

Gary,

Oh yes he on page 356, where he is merely listed as Lieutenant Gordon, with no initials in the entry for the 94th Regiment.

If you have a copy of M & S that I indexed, the. look at the entry on page 384 for Lt. R. G. Gordon, and my additional note in parentheses.

There are a number of posts regarding him on the forum.

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PostSubject: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour    Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 3:02 pm

Thanks JY for the heads up , I was looking under Gilmour ! , so , isn't he a Gilmour ? , I did look under Gordon , but as there are about 4 or 5 of them I had no idea who he was , was looking under Gordon with G as an initial , didn't see it to just NOW !! HAHAHAHAHA , just checked again Gordon R.G. in plain view Salute
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PostSubject: Re: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour   Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 3:56 pm

Gary,

It was just to confuse those from the Antipodes.

Initially he was Robert Gordon Wolrige-Gordon, he changed his name in 1887 becoming Robert Gordon Gilmour.

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PostSubject: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour    Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 4:03 pm

Hi John ... it worked ... the confusing !! . I see from a very earlier post it seems Steve ( Rusteze ) had a copy of his Diary !? .
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PostSubject: Re: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour   Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyMon Sep 05, 2022 4:32 pm

Gary,

Take a look at https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t934-robert-gordon-wolrige-gordon-2nd-lieutenant-94th

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PostSubject: Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour    Sir Robert Gordon Gilmour EmptyTue Sep 06, 2022 2:52 am

Hi JY
Again Thanks for that , I'm afraid the steel trap ( my mind ! ) may need some maintenance !! HAHAHAHAHA You need to study mo You need to study mo You need to study mo , I couldn't remember those posts !! .
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