Captain Crutchley

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Northern Weekly Gazette 15 February 1890

This article suggests that Captain Crutchley took part in the Zulu War and lost a leg.

There is a Captain E A Crutchley, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Regiment, Natal Native Contingent listed in Terry Sole's For God, Queen and Colony and listed on the Medal Roll for the 5th Battalion.

I have worked out that the Captain Crutchley in the above article is Captain Percy Edward Crutchley.

The question is now are E A Crutchley and Percy Edward Crutchley the same person?

Look forward to hearing your suggestions.

Andy

Subject: Re: Captain Crutchley Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:32 am

That’s a long engagement if it is the same man. 13 years plus (as he was entitled to 1877-8-9 bar)! I’ve picked up from somewhere that Capt EA Crutchley was from East London, presumably the one in the Cape and was promoted Capt during the war?

Regards

Herbie

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It is easy just to put search 'Zulu War' into old scanned newspapers and turn up doubtful reporting.

Captain Charles Crutchley SG was wounded at Matammeh (Abu Klea) on 19 January 1885 while serving with Grenadier Guards during the 1885-6 Sudan War - see London Gazette dated 24 Feb 1885 (page 853). As far I can tell he did not serve in the Zulu War

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.......................Major General Charles Crutchley KCB KCVO, lately Lt Governor Royal Hospital Chelsea, born 10 Dec 1856, died 2 Dec 1920. No AZW service. Probably with the Guards Camel Regiment in the Sudan. His commander in the Sudan was Sir Herbert Stewart who did serve in AZW.

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Hi Kenny

Many thanks for your replies.

I do have to ask, Who is Charles Crutchley?

I have not mentioned a Charles, only a Percy and an E A Crutchley. What is the connection with Charles and the others or I am missing something?

Andy

Subject: Re: Captain Crutchley Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:08 pm

Clearly not the same chap. I can’t see anyone riding a camel with 1 leg. It’s not easy with 2!
Regards
Herbie

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Andy,

I was wrong, sorry. It was Percy Edward Crutchley who married Frederica Louisa in 1890. Percy was commissioned as Lt in 1 Berkshire Rifle Volunteers on 14 Dec 1881 and resigned as Capt 8 Jun 1889. He may served in AZW in the local SA forces. He died at Ascot on 16 Oct 1940. His father was General Charles Crutchley who was Colonel 23rd Foot, 1875-1898. The reference to Mrs Charles Crutchley in the newspaper report of the wedding was obviously his mother.

Subject: Re: Captain Crutchley Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:28 pm

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=edward&q.surname=crutchley&f.recordCountry=South%20Africa&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on&count=20&offset=0

If you check this website you will find 10 entries for surname Crutchley, of which some are for given name Edward and some for variations on Addingbooke as a second name. Should resolve your issue.

Regards.
Brian

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Hi Brian

Many many thanks for the link.

I can now rule out Percy Edward Crutchley taking part in the Zulu War.

Andy

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Andy,

I still think there is some mis-reporting here (or the journalist has got the facts screwed up). Percy Edward Crutchley was the chap who got married in February 1890 - there is a copy of his marriage details on Ancestry. However Lt (later Maj Gen) Charles Crutchley SG did loose a leg in the Sudan. They may have been related - I have not checked this. Probably neither served in the Anglo-Zulu War.

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Hi Kenny

I have to agree with you, a lot of mis-reporting or crossed wired reporting, that is newspapers for us.

Many thanks for your help.

Andy