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PostSubject: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyWed May 12, 2021 11:53 am

There are quite a few references to young Fred and Charles Pope wearing a monocle when they were killed. But none of them give a zulu source. Any thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyWed May 12, 2021 1:24 pm

Frank,

An unnamed induna in MacKinnon & Shadbolt, the same story appears in both officers’ entries.

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PostSubject: Re: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyWed May 12, 2021 1:34 pm

Thats all I can find John.
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyWed May 12, 2021 5:30 pm

Frank,

Got it, it first appeared in C. L. Norris-Newman's In Zululand with the British..., pages 240-1.

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PostSubject: Re: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyThu May 13, 2021 8:00 am

Thanks John, I did get as far as that yesterday but no further.
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyMon May 17, 2021 2:50 pm

MacKinnon and Shadbolt "the south african campaign of 1879" (first publication 1880 / my edition is 1995)

-About POPE p.148
"... and the record of the part he played on the fatal day is supplemented by a statement made by an induna who was present at the slaughter. The zulu reported that, when surrounding the 24th at the nek at Isandhlwana, two officers (subsequently ascetained to have been Lieutenants POPE and GODWIN-AUSTEN), with pieces of glass in their eye, came forward, shooting at him with their revolvers. One fell dead from a gunshot, and the other kept firing his revolver at the induna, grazing the right side of his neck with one bullet, the left side with another, and wounding him in the leg with a third. The induna then flung an assegai, which entered the officer's breast. the officer, with a supreme effort, almost succeded in pulling out the weapon (at this point in his statemen, the zulu writhed his body in pantomine of the movements of the officer), but the induna fell on him and instantaneously finished his work with another assegai."

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PostSubject: Re: Fred Godwin- Austen   Fred Godwin- Austen EmptyMon Jul 25, 2022 4:44 pm

Some back ground info for the Godwin-Austens

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