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PostSubject: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyThu Jan 06, 2022 9:36 pm

I inherited a number of years ago an 1879 clasped 'South African medal from a distant relative. Interestingly, I have also got 2 pictures of him within his unit. I am currently serving In the forces and have it with my own medals.

All I know is that he is a Gnr W Luckman 4747 of 5th Bde RA.

Out of pure interest I would like to know if anyone has any details or information of him and his actions during this period.
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyThu Jan 06, 2022 10:33 pm

Not on the roll of N/5 at the time of Isandhlwana. Must have arrived later to bring the battery up to strength (hence the 1879 clasp and not 1877-8-9).
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyFri Jan 07, 2022 6:17 am

Hi All
Not in any order.
Attested R.Art 10 Aug 1875 at Woolwich, aged 20 B.c 1855 Nechells Green Birmingham, Regt ##No.1106. I/2 Field Art 1 July 1889. Died at Weedon 9 March 1893 of Pneumonia Reg Daventry Northamptonshire. Re-engaged to complete 21 yrs service 8 Aug 1887. Replacement for N/5 R Art 1 March 1879. Deserted Potchefstroom S Africa 29 March 1880 rejoined 30 Nov 1880, tried and imprisioned 10 Dec 80 to 15 Dec 80, recommended for restroration of forfieted service for gallant service in the field during siege of Potchefstroom in the first Boer War 1880-81. Home service 9 Aug 75 to 10 March 1879 to Cape 11 March 1879 to 31 jan 1882 to UK 1 Feb 1882 to 9 march 1893, 18 yrs service. South Africa Medal with clasp 1879. Served Zulu War from April 1879, Transvaal/First Boer War 1880-1881, at Siege of Potchefstroom. Married Clara Tottle at St Giles Colchester on 23 March 1885 two kids, William 30/7/86 at woolwich, Albert Henry 19/7/88 at Woolwich.
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyFri Jan 07, 2022 6:51 am

Hi Again
Follow up.
Clara was born circa 1863 in Trull Somerset, the 1891 census gives her and william at Weedon Barracks Weedon Beck Northamptonshire, aged only 28 she remarried William Henry Jury R F Art April/June 1894 reg Daventry Northamptonshire, 1901 census they are in Portsmouth, includes son Charles Luckman b.1891 Coventry, and another son John H Ivory b.1899 at Woolwich, Will H Jury is Sgt Major Field Art b.c 1856 Tavistock. In the 1911 Census Clara is a Widow with two daughters Clara Jury b.1892 and Edith Jury b.1893 living in Plymouth. I assume these daughters were from Jury's first marriage ???. Clara Possibly dies in St Austell District in 1939.
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyFri Jan 07, 2022 8:33 am

Hi 1879Luckman
Welcome to the forum.
Any chance of posting up the two pictures you have of him?
Excellent work Rai Salute
Kate Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyFri Jan 07, 2022 5:34 pm

What alot of information and thanks for the time that you have all spent on this.
The plot thickens. The 2 x photos that I inherited with the medal are of the time but for LBdr in the first one and Sgts in the second one. They seem like  the same cohort.

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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyFri Jan 07, 2022 6:18 pm

Great pictures.
I'm no uniform expert but they do look a bit late though for a man who left the army in 1889.
I would have thought they would have been wearing the home service helmet with ball fixing if the pictures were taken before 1902. I thought the peaked cap was only adopted c1905.
I'm sure some one on here will correct me though if I am wrong.
Also its difficult to see but are some of them wearing Anglo Boer war medals?
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyMon Jan 10, 2022 3:24 pm

Replacement medal issued.
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyMon Jan 10, 2022 4:24 pm

Kate,
You're right the photos are definitely not right.
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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyMon Jan 10, 2022 4:41 pm

I see on the third picture above it says 'grandfather.'
I wonder if the great grandfather was issued the SA medal and his son followed him into the battery and is shown in the postcards above.

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PostSubject: Re: Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA   Gunner Luckman 4747 5th Bde RA EmptyMon Jan 10, 2022 4:48 pm

That would seem more likely. But then it also depends on who wrote grandfather? 1879Luckman's father or grandfather??
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