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Can anyone recommend a good book on the colonial soldiers during the zulu war. I've read Blood on the painted mountain. Is there anything more recent?
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Ciroferrara,

It depends on what aspect of the involvement of the colonial/volunteer troops you want consider.

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Hi I'm looking for something specifically about the Frontier Light Horse
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PostSubject: Re: Best book on colonial soldiers during zulu war   Best book on colonial soldiers during zulu war EmptyTue May 17, 2022 10:21 pm

Hi Ciroferrara
You probably want The Frontier Light Horse by Cam Simpson, but it seems to be out of print. I’d like to find a copy myself…
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I've just done a quick search of the suggested book. And it appears to be one of those that is and will remain impossible to find. I had a similar experience with a book about the Bushveldt Carbineers.
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There’s a link at the end of the following YouTube presentation.

https://youtu.be/UFoH5Sjpd40

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Its available from Clarks in Cape Town last time I looked. I will get in touch with Cam.
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Just chatted with Cam. Select books in Cape Town has multiple copies available. But if your happy to wait it will be on Amazon in a couple of months.

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Shop@selectbooks.co.za
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Thank you for all your help. I will get in touch with them
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Just had an email back. They have just sold the last copy!
They are going to contact Cam Simpson for more copies.
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New copies will be there tomorrow.
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That's amazing thank you
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Hi Ciroferrara
Hopefully you're in SA ? , I can tell you postage will be prohibitive.... you'll need to have it sent by Courier if you aren't in SA and it's going international , SA Post is deplorable ( at best ).... still waiting on a book sent surface mail from SA to Australia in Oct last year , I wanted to cancel the sale it was at Auction , but the Seller said I couldn't , I certainly wasn't going to pay something like $ 70 USD to have it sent by Courier , as it was it was still $ 22 USD by Surface mail , and still waiting , I no longer use the Auction site , and certainly will NEVER buy from the sellers bookshop ever again ! .
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Hi 90th
I'm based in Devon, England. But I may just bite the bullet and get it delivered by courier. I'm waiting to here back from the seller today.
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Hi Ciroferrara
It's an excellent book , all the best with the Postage , I'd be keen to know what they charge you .
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I will definitely let you know what the postage costs.
Do any forum members know what illustrations or pictures are in this book?
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I have it, what are you searching for?
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Ciroferrara,

I have a copy in front of me now. The illustrations are a mixture of contemporary photographs and engravings and modern colour photographs. Is anything you are looking for in particular?

Strangely my name morphs in the text from John to James, most odd.

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I was just curious if there were any contemporary photos that were previously unpublished and if there were any specifically from the skirmish before ulundi.
I haven't heard back from Dave at select books as yet.
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Ciroferrara,

The only one I can say I had not seen before is of a RQMS from a colonial unit, it is contemporary to the period, but there is no direct evidence to link it to the Frontier Light Horse.

I did supply Cam with a photograph of Captain & Paymaster Howard Hutton, of the Frontier Light Horse, wearing his NZ & South Africa medals, but it didn’t make the publication.

There was a photographer in the field with Wood’s Flying Column, but to my knowledge there were no recorded photographs of colonial units.  There was a photograph taken on the Mfolozi River near where the mounted troops crossed on 3rd July 1879, I believe it appears in Michael Barthorp’s Pictorial History.

David Truesdale and I used some uncommon engravings relating to Beresford & O’Toole in Victoria’s Harvest.

There are some notable omissions from the photographs in Cam’s book, but that is just my opinion.

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Thank you. I'm still quite interested to see what is in the book. I've just had a look through my copy of your book and had a look at photograph of Captain & Paymaster Howard Hutton. Will let you know if I get my hands on a copy. Cheers Ciroferrara
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Ciroferrara,

Please give me a few days, everyone in the house is down with Covid at present, and I can’t access my photographic collection at this time.

I will do so as soon as possible.

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Hi JY
Sorry to hear your all down with Covid , here's hoping it doesn't get a decent hold on any of you . Get well soon .
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Gary,

Thanks for that, I’ve got to say of three of us here I am showing the mildest symptoms. My eldest son brought it back with him from a business trip to Washington D.C. We had managed to avoid it for over two years, so I guess it was inevitable.

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Sympathy John, I have a daughter and two grandchildren down. Although the steroid inhaler seems to be doing a lot to help.
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Cheers Frank,

I don’t think steroid inhaler option here. I hate to think what the symptoms would be like without the vaccines.

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Have made the purchase of the book just now :)
Total cost with courier was 900 rand or about £45.
Thank you to everyone on here for your help.
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Hi Ciroferrara
WOW , very expensive... 45 GBP's being $ 90 Aussie !! . My days of buying books from SA are well and truly gone , will have to buy up when I get back over there , hopefully sooner than later . At least you have it now .
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Absolutely ridiculous it was being sold in the U.K. for £19.50. Personally I blame corruption for causing the ruin of the South African Postal Service.

Now courier services profiteer from the customers of South African booksellers and publishers.

Just my thoughts.

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I just bit the bullet and paid the postage as I was quite keen to get hold of the book. I haven't been given any time frame for how long the courier service will take.
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JY. Covid has come to roost. Reckon i caught it from you. One. Of these new fangled computer virus.
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Frank,

You know how much I like to share things.

Keep safe & take care.

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Hi JY
Hopefully you're feeling better and the worst has passed ? . Agree with your Corruption comment , the same thing attributed to the demise of Sth African Airways !! , that's just two sectors of their Economy ruined by Corruption ! , unfortunately SA is being fast tracked back to the Stone age ! .
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Ciroferrara,

Please give me a few days, everyone in the house is down with Covid at present, and I can’t access my photographic collection at this time.

I will do so as soon as possible.

JY
Hi John

Sorry to hear you have Covid, I had it just before Easter, please keep well and safe John and your family to.

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Big covid problems here in Devon, hope everyone here is doing ok.
Managed to pick up Frank's book on Amazon for £35 and jumped at the chance, looking forward to reading it.
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Hi Ciroferrara
Yes Covid's proving very stubborn here in Australia , it's raging here in Melbourne... as is the flu which has become a real problem , I had the Flu in the first week of May was out of action for a week ! , Sydney isn't much better neither is the rest of Oz to be honest !
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I think covid is here to stay. Just need to watch out for this Monkey Pox that is doing the rounds. If ain't one thing is another!
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Hi Pete
Yes Covid will be here for years , if not ever , in one way shape or form ! .
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Ciroferrara,

As requested.

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Captain & Paymaster Howard Hutton,
Frontier Light Horse. Photographed in Bath, circa 1881.
(John Young Collection.)

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Thank you John I appreciate you sharing that.
Have you any other images of the Frontier Light Horse?
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Ciroferrara,

Photographically I have nothing else - knowingly - in my collection.

A slight variation of the photograph of Hutton appears in the book Defenders of New Zealand together a short biography of him.

I do have a watercolour of H.C.D D’Arcy V.C., that I commissioned from the late Andy May.

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Hi John
I would definitely like to see the watercolour of Cecil Darcy. Anything frontier light horse is of interest.
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The book arrived this afternoon and I'm very pleased with it.
Just wanted to say thank you again to everyone who helped me finally get a copy
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