Private 2137 Thomas Edwards 17th Lancers , Valentine Baker, Corporal 1558 Thomas Bailey 17th Lancers

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Birmingham Mail - Friday 02 June 1939

Thomas Bailey could be this chap
https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t11433-t-bailey-44th-foot?highlight=bailey

Thomas Edwards
https://www.1879zuluwar.com/t11460-thomas-edwards?highlight=edwards

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Hi Kate

Private 2137 Thomas Edwards, 17th (The Duke of Cambridge's Own) Lancers.
Evening Despatch 15 November 1941 confirms his regiment.

Major Valentine Baker did not take part in the Zulu War of 1879.

Corporal 1558 Thomas Bailey, 17th (The Duke of Cambridge's Own) Lancers.

Andy

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Was working my way through the medal rolls as you were typing Andy and found
2 x T Edwards
Private 1040 T Edwards 3/60th Regiment
Private 1120 T Edwards 88th Regiment
But your 1941 report confirms him as a Lancer
and 3 x T Bailey's
Private 1223 T Bailey 80th Regiment
Private 1025 T Bailey 99th Regiment
Private 1052 T Bailey 99th Regiment

No Valentine Baker

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Evening Despatch - Saturday 15 November 1941

The famous (possibly infamous) Valentine Baker died in 1887. This has to be a different man who shared the same name.

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Funnily enough I've just finished reading an interesting book about Valentine which tries to clear his name.
Called 'A Question of Honour' it is written by Anne Baker and though it puts forward a valid case one has to remember when reading it who the author is!!

'A Question of Honour. The Life of Lieutenant General Valentine Baker Pasha' by Anne Baker
ISBN 0 85052 496 2 Pen and Sword

'Imperial Vanities' - a book about the Baker brothers - is another book which puts a case for the defence.

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Hi All
Thomas Bailey Attested 25 Feb 1874 age 18 born 1856 All Saints Cambridge, to 17th Lncrs No.1558 to S Africa 25 Feb 1879 to Natal 6 April 1879 to India 18 Oct 1879, Discharged 25 Feb 1895 at Leeds 25 yrs. M. Lucy Thurston 24 june 1884 in Kent. she was born 1865 in Canterbury Kent. 1911 census 4 Grafton St, Cambridge, he is a Army Pensioner M to Lucy one child. He probably dies March Qtr 1932 in Cambridge District.
Rai Keynshamlighthorse.

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