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PostSubject: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyWed Sep 21, 2022 11:54 am

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyTue Jan 31, 2023 11:02 am

Hi All,
I think this is Charles S.B. Parsons Royal Artillery who is elsewhere on the website see link to Major Parsons. Charles has a Memorial in Exeter Cathedral and is buried in St Davids Cemetery Exeter. He died in London 25 June 1923.
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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyTue Jan 31, 2023 2:01 pm

I believe this is him, Captain Edward Parsons in " www.myheritage.com, there is a photo if anyone has access:

Edward Parsons born 1858 - 1942 to John Parsons and Martha Parsons (Born Moore) John Born: 1823 in Workington, England. Martha born: 1828c, in Dublin, Ireland.
Edward had 3 siblings: John and two other siblings. Edward married Sarah Parsons (born Avery) in 1877 at age 18. Sarah was born on August 27, 1856, in Liverpool, NSW.
They had 2 daughters: Veronica Claire Guinane (born Parsons) and one other child.
Edward passed away in 1942, at age 83, in death place.

The photograph in heritage.com does look very much like the photo in the article. Happy to delete if not.

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyTue Jan 31, 2023 4:36 pm

Rai,

My big issue with it being Charles Sim Bremridge Parsons, although there is a Devon connection, is at the time of the article’s publication in 1912, he was Major-General Sir Charles S. B. Parsons, rather than just Captain E. Parsons.

The medal roll reveals just E. Parsons, a Private in the 3rd/60th Rifles.  I will do some digging and see if I can’t find a commission for him.

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyTue Jan 31, 2023 5:25 pm

Eddie,

The officer who served in the 112th (Middlesex) Company, 11th Battalion the Imperial Yeomanry was Lieutenant Ernest Parsons, so I think we can safely discount your Edward Parsons.

Appears in 1902 Hart’s - no mention of previous military service. Awarded the Q.S.A. Medal.

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyTue Jan 31, 2023 5:44 pm

Hi John

Having looked at the two photos, in the article and in heritage.com, they actually look the same. Don't know if you have looked at them, may be wrong, but worth a look.
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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyTue Jan 31, 2023 6:29 pm

Eddie,

I haven’t as I don’t have access to myheritage.com.

However, having found the only officer with the surname Parsons in 112th (Middlesex) Company, 11th Battalion the Imperial Yeomanry was Ernest, I will stick with him.  He appears to have been a Private in one of the Middlesex Volunteer Battalions prior to being commissioned in the I.Y.

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyWed Feb 01, 2023 10:27 am

Hi John

You are probably right but, are you saying the person in the article did not serve in the Zulu war as stated in the article. The reason I ask is that the only Lieutenant Ernest Parson's I can find fought in the Boer war, and in WWI who died in 1916.


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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyWed Feb 01, 2023 10:44 am

Eddie,

Not quite, if we can establish the subsequent career of the Pte. E. Parsons in the 3rd/60th it might help with linking it to the officer who served in the 2nd Boer War in the Imperial Yeomanry.

You can discount the officer from the Great War, as he was only 25 years of age when he died according to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. See https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/625329/ernest-parsons/. Which obviously given his age would preclude any military service in the 2nd Boer War.

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyWed Feb 01, 2023 11:20 am

Hi John

I know to discount the officer of the great war, that is why I mentioned him.
The article states that he served in the imperial Yeomanry first, taking command of a Company of Yeomanry at Aldershot, and then formed the 112th Middlesex. He had to be an officer in the Yeomanry first, or am I reading it incorrectly.
He wouldn't have been a Private in the 112th as it seems as if he formed it as an officer later.
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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyWed Feb 01, 2023 11:55 am

Eddie,

Have I at anytime said that he was a Private in the 112th (Middlesex) Company, 11th Battalion Imperial Yeomanry?

However, if you look at the establishment of Imperial Yeomanry in The London Gazette March 1901, see: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/27292/page/1652

You will find a Private Ernest Parsons from the 1st Middlesex Volunteer Rifle Corps.

You rather contradict yourself in the following:
Eddie wrote:
The reason I ask is that the only Lieutenant Ernest Parson's I can find fought in the Boer war, and in WWI who died in 1916.
Eddie wrote:
I know to discount the officer of the great war, that is why I mentioned him.

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PostSubject: Re: Captain E Parsons   Captain E Parsons EmptyWed Feb 01, 2023 1:05 pm

Hi John

The article states that the gentleman was an officer In the Imperial Yeomanry first, not the Middlesex regiment.

I don't know what you mean by I contradicted myself. I said the Lieutenant was the only Ernest I could find, so he could be discounted.

I was just attempting to help in a little research on the subject. I did'nt mean for anything to become confrontational, I will leave it there.
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